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goldslayer1 -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (7/30/2011 21:31:12)

also everyone remember, that skins will also cost varium and credits. (however it should be much less varium and credits from the original armor)
for example
if the armor is 1k varium and 10k credits
the skin should be 2500 credits and 250 varium
that means that the skins only cost 25% of what the armor costs. (founders get theirs free)
altho it doesn't have to be at that price, that is the price that IMO seems fair since skins are skins and give us no real advantage in battle.
as for non varium armor skins they should only cost credits. so if u want a seraph armor skin u only pay credits.
because if the armor costed varium and credits, the skin should cost varium and credits.
if it costed credits, then the skin should only cost credits.

another thing, since non varium armors are only credits, making the price a little higher would help keep it balance. (75% of original price maybe?)


@AJS
i guess u never been a deep pvper of aqw?
but if u were into the hard core pvping in aqw, fashion wasn't something the pvpers cared about.
the thing about AQW and what makes it such a great game is the variety it has in armors and weapons.
in fact recently they installed a new color picker, that lets them pick any color they want. and i mean ANY.
its not like here in ED where u have to pick one of the already chosen colors in the color panel.
the color options in aqw are unlimited. thats why it has so much variety. whats wrong with having variety here?

also in aqw if an armor is released today EVERYONE is wearing. the next week u hardly see a soul wearing that armor again because they moved on to something else.


@below
LMAO



Sparticus -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (7/30/2011 21:38:08)

LOL what was the definition of a flame again MIR? I think I read you quote that to someone this weekend right?

I wonder how skins would work and I'm skeptical when it comes to overhauling basic things like armor.
That being said, I was not too happy this weekend with how things went down so I would like some change, I just don't know what sort yet.



xxmirxx -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (7/30/2011 21:40:41)

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Why not for all armors because I bet females would like to have goth as skin and have Tesla Armor stats.
here his comments to me.
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actually i think your the one who want them to -_-
So who was one who start it first Sparticus?



redxtra -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (7/30/2011 21:41:46)

@ajs777
this is 2 different games aqw has 2.5k ppl in each server and they have about 15 severs online at once so there with that many ppl the game gets laggy here and there.
and if ED had had skins like it could be like a varium and a non varium thing likeinsted of making copies of the armor as skins they can be new ideas like civillian clothes. and have a set of skins that starts out costing varium and like everytime new skins come out the old ones go credit cost. and so that ppl wont try 2 have an inventory of skins have it so u could only have one at a time in ur inventory so when u buy one it replaces the other but so then u wouldnt have to buy it again it would save as u alrdy have it



DeathGuard -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (7/30/2011 21:42:44)

Founders will get the Founder skin for free? So now you guys support it, I see it more favorable for founders than for a nonvarium like OWA, he is caring for your interest but no flaming will help but what about suggesting some ideas?[;)]



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (7/30/2011 21:44:22)

guys keep it on topic this has a good chance of swaying both parties to the others favor either Founder to non Founder or Non founder to Founder

why are we talking about AQW pvp again i understood the origanal conection of New armors dissaper shortly after they are released but not the PvP connection



ajs777 -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (7/30/2011 21:44:34)

@red
what you just said sounds just like what im afraid of, i hate playing barbie wars -_-

lol thanks mir for putting that in one convienent post



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (7/30/2011 21:47:52)

Cyber i like that no matter how skins get done if its you can take your current armor and mve it to skins or you buy a skin or whatever else comes to our minds that Founders should get a free Founder skin so they can show that pride always. Now ofcourse if its done that you can move your armor to skin there is no need for a Founder Skin but like Red's or Golds idea a Founder skin would be needed



LambO -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (7/30/2011 22:02:54)

Alright, say they did implant the skins feature, why should we have to pay for it?
Since we've already brought the amour with the skin, buying a skin to replace another amour sounds like losing money?
^Which I won't let happen.
I know you said Founder will get it for free, but still paying for a skin of a amour you've already brought doesn't make sense.

If you can buy a skin of a amour without actually having the amour would seem okay.
Amour costs the normal 15k + 900+ varium, the skin would cost half it.

If they say they won't be upgrading the Founder amour but we can use the skin instead, they better make sure to turn the Limited Quanity shop into a Limited Time.
1. I live in a completely different time zone.
2. I work for a living, when I'm working they do there releases.

Before you even say We had no chance of getting Founder amour, would be bull. Founder amour was on sale for atleast a month or more, Tesla amour you have about a minute to grab the amours before they go, which as I see it's truly is unfair to a paying customer.
Also seeing how The releases are only America based time zones, this is another thing why it's unfair to release a LQS for a paying customer.

So let's say the did do the skin thing, things better change.



redxtra -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (7/30/2011 22:06:08)

@one winged
of corse founders should get a free skin if this is put into the game and then the skins will be custom colored like armors. and like for holidays they have special skins .(would be funny to see sum1 dressed as a bunny on easter)



xxmirxx -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (7/30/2011 22:07:28)

Lambo you would have look of founder but with armors you already own. Which fair that way non founders would flame you. But If you ask me there jealous over founders.



Angels Holocaust -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (7/30/2011 22:13:50)

Why are we founders even wasting out time on this subject, this is just messed up to the max. We were here first in the game, an upgrade to our armor is what we deserve. Why the hell are we even adapting to non variums and non founders? It's kinda funny to see what jealousy has developed into, yet another scheme for the players to lose money.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (7/30/2011 22:15:49)

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Alright, say they did implant the skins feature, why should we have to pay for it?
Since we've already brought the amour with the skin, buying a skin to replace another amour sounds like losing money?
^Which I won't let happen.
I know you said Founder will get it for free, but still paying for a skin of a amour you've already brought doesn't make sense.

wow and thats coming from someone who said founder is the best looking armor in the game. -.- if i had founder i wouldn't worry about buying other skins.

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If you can buy a skin of a amour without actually having the amour would seem okay.
Amour costs the normal 15k + 900+ varium, the skin would cost half it.

actually i made a pricing idea that it would cost 25% of the original price for varium ones, and 75% of the original price for credits.
however, OWA made a small improvement to it. u have the armor and u put it in the skin slot, so only the graphic of the armor take effect while the stats donts. this somewhat seems like a good idea because then the player would have to buy the armor.

however i think we should make a post and fully explain each one with detail and let the members see what they think.


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If they say they won't be upgrading the Founder amour but we can use the skin instead, they better make sure to turn the Limited Quanity shop into a Limited Time.
1. I live in a completely different time zone.
2. I work for a living, when I'm working they do there releases.

bud, thats a whole different topic. if u feel LQS is unfair, then make a post about it concerning LQS and how it should be fixed.


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Before you even say We had no chance of getting Founder amour, would be bull. Founder amour was on sale for atleast a month or more, Tesla amour you have about a minute to grab the amours before they go, which as I see it's truly is unfair to a paying customer.
Also seeing how The releases are only America based time zones, this is another thing why it's unfair to release a LQS for a paying customer.
ok u have a good point about the timezones. but again thats a different topic

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We were here first in the game,

alphas? elites? betas?



redxtra -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (7/30/2011 22:16:33)

@lamb0
the only reason its like this is because they live in america for one and most of the players or from here. i kno how u feel aswell because i used to live in germany and aqw was having a LQS and i had just woken up and went to the shop and almost everything was gone. so like all i can say to that is to suck it up or set an alarm for when the shop opens. like i had an 6 hour difference so if things came out at 6 it was at midnight for me so just find the time difference and there ya go i mean if u give me ur time i can give u the difference



xxmirxx -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (7/30/2011 22:20:27)

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We were here first in the game, an upgrade to our armor is what we deserve. Why the hell are we even adapting to non variums and non founders?
No you weren't Alpha Tester and Elite players were first. Last time I check you don't have any of those achievement.
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It's kinda funny to see what jealousy has developed into, yet another scheme for the players to lose money.
jealously much angels.



redxtra -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (7/30/2011 22:24:19)

@angels
plz dont turn this into another war ok dont complain about it we are just talking about if it would be better if there were skins because if they do do a payable upgrade they might just make it as much as tesla armor (talking about cost) so we are saying it would be better if there were skins so u could cover the armor so then if u were a founder u got a free founder skin so then u could get new armor and still have the smexy founder look



DeathGuard -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (7/30/2011 22:25:48)

This is ajoke, OWA no need to put your effort in something they don't want, they are shells without souls. No point in having this thread if it receives flaming, and even from the one who will get this feature for free, that is founders.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (7/30/2011 22:27:05)

@red
skins in no way should cost as much as a normal armor.
it depends on the skin system used. i would say let titan code whichever is easier.



DeathGuard -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (7/30/2011 22:30:28)

Better give them the upgrade, no use in talking with them and getting called pests, I won't be involved anymore in this discussions, no point in trying to help founders.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (7/30/2011 22:33:39)

@cyber
giving them what they want will only cause them to keep asking for more in the future.



xxmirxx -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (7/30/2011 22:34:48)

cyberbakio ryugan HELL NO. there just like child who can't get there way. They call themselves adults there more like over grown badys.



DeathGuard -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (7/30/2011 22:36:53)

I got an idea, what about giving them a Greedy Person achievement :)



redxtra -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (7/30/2011 22:37:20)

@gold
i wasnt saying that skins should cost that much i was sayin that if there was a payable founder armor buff it would be basicly the same as new armor

and the skins should be a good idk 5k creds for old skins 3k creds and around 200 25 var for new skins



goldslayer1 -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (7/30/2011 22:38:25)

@cyber
will it have -5500 rating?

@red
ohh
well currently there are 2 ways for skins to be implemented.
IMO they are both good, its now up to titan's coding to decide which one is better.
thats if they consider this idea



DeathGuard -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (7/30/2011 22:41:15)

Nope sorry, they are too greedy they want a -10000 rating point achievement[:D]



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