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One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (8/1/2011 17:22:26)

Ok Lambo Founders with armor can get a FDMA Chevo worth 1.5K rating its an upgrade on what you already have and since you never said what type of upgrade you cant argue otherwise


Anyway if you use Golds idea then Founders without Armor could possibly get the FDMA skin if you use my idea of using an Armor as a skin not paying anything more just using an old armor then Founders without FDMA could not have the FDMA armor skin



Angels Holocaust -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (8/1/2011 17:39:17)

Hey let's give founder skin to everyone, not. Lol

@ Lambo

Don't waste your time arguing with these non variums or non founders. Theres no reasoning with those people, there just mad at the fact that they don't have the armor and were owned by it. The more we succumb to their terms the less power we founders will receive. If founders don't get the upgrade that they rightfully deserve than forget it, we don't want these crappy skins, it was a terrible idea from the start by Goldslayer1, he goes on and rants about how founder armor was good and how he missed out on the opportunity. And if you take a look at one of his former posts, he goes on and suggests that the Devs re release a new founder armor for everyone to get. Those are hints that he wants the armor and is willing to screw over anyone who owns one because he does not have one.



DeathSpawn -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (8/1/2011 17:48:36)

They need to do something about these peeps flamming our thoughts and opinions over and over with groundless biased opinions.

No reason Founders shouldn't be able to discuss why they deserve a buff or upgrade and no reason why others can't tell us why not but some folks, without mentioning names, although it's pretty obvious, keep ranting and throwing ridiculous statements out there just because they have or don't have something.

So hard to discuss anything here....



LambO -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (8/1/2011 18:07:31)

One Winged, don't try it. You know aswell as everyone what I ment.
If Founders without Founder amour get the Skin then Founders with the amour get the upgrade, for the amour.

All this hassel, might aswell upgrade the amour, seriously.



Calogero -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (8/1/2011 18:29:57)

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there just mad at the fact that they don't have the armor and were owned by it




And now you are mad your founder armor is being owned by Telsa and Bunny Borg...
Nothing lasts forever, time to accept thatforever, time to accept that

@ Below

was talking about the armor, not Angels



aqwshadowking14 -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (8/1/2011 18:32:18)

@Andy I not so sure about that, Angels has both Bunny and Tesla.



StriderAigis -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (8/1/2011 18:41:35)

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there just mad at the fact that they don't have the armor and were owned by it


ummm no i have taken down founders before i ws a TLM i was a mage and the only time i usally have troubles with founders is with High STR TLM's



Calogero -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (8/1/2011 18:42:11)

still tho it's like this:

Founders want an upgrade for their Founder armor so they can ' use ' it...
Non Founders Don't want to see a buff because then the armors they paid would be yet again Second rate next to Founder

We actualy want to make a compromise and suggest Skins so that founders can still show off being a founder but
still have to buy other armors to be competive... and that's being shot down by our very own Angels Holocaust

That's not standing up for the founder community anymore, that's just plain greed



Angels Holocaust -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (8/1/2011 19:00:20)

This whole idea is insane in the first place, we are implementing a completely new system into the game. You know how long that's going to take? An upgrade feature for the armor is more reasonable as to a whole new system getting implemented.



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (8/1/2011 19:26:41)

Lambo i knwo which you ment which is why i stated teh anyways part becuase my Idea keeps Founder skin in the hands of Founders with FDMA only which is what you are saying should happen.


@ Angels I'm still waiting for a concrete reason why your idea is better then mine becuase all i see now is a temp solution which will have to be redone agin and again and will be less likely o happen after each subsequent buff to said armor and more important my idea benfits the entire community where as your idea benfits a handful of players. Also Cindy said Skins was the origanal Idea of things so thats an interesting bit of information to keep in your head

@Death after reading your statement afew times i finally understand it yes we should be able to discuss an idea without being trolled now reasonable non-founders or reasonable founders should be able to discus on both sides ideas but if your just going to troll an idea that is different then your becuase it is not yours is unacceptable



Angels Holocaust -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (8/1/2011 19:58:21)

@ One Winged Angel

We founders just want a simple upgrade, it's as simple as that we don't want anything else in the game. UNDERSTAND, we don't want these dam skins at all. Your like Sam from Green Eggs and Ham, your pressuring us into using your crappy idea. I don't want skins, I don't have to give you a reason as to why I don't like it but since you continue to pester me I'll give you
an answer. Founder armor is something that is unique to each and every one of us, we should have a separate look and a different set of stats that separates us from other armors.



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (8/1/2011 20:14:49)

Matgon
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Skins for armors is not a bad idea, you can have the look that you want, with the buffs you want....

Fay Beee
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I have always wanted skins. :) FOR ALL


So I support the skins suggestion.

Ashari
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Personally, I like the idea of skins that can be worn over armor purely for aesthetics. What most Founders are looking for is to retain their status, and that's done through Founder Armor's appearance, not its stats. I wouldn't want to see skins become as commonplace as in AQW, since EpicDuel's primary focus in equipment should be to provide many different stat options to players. But having a few skins for special occasions, like Founder Armor or future promos would be a cool addition. :)

Cindy
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That was actually what we'd intended way at the beginning of the game, that items wouldn't have stats, you'd have to buy the level/stat enhancements for them. But one of the appeals of the game is getting to the higher level to get the new weapons. So, our idea was to have this option available for very rare items- in both premium and free flavors- because we don't want everyone to have to get the new seasonal rares to remain competitive. That's not our intention at all!


Angels those are what Founders are saying for Skins all that is being said against skins is from you and ajs for the most part Lamb0 just wants FDMA skin to go only to those with FDMA which my idea would give him and then besides the founders we have plenty of others backing the idea so they can do exactly what Matgon said



DeathGuard -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (8/1/2011 20:23:20)

OWA: That is why I said their is no point in trying to help founders, they call us pests and jealous people, so let them be forget and they will stop doing the useless buff threads. Anywas Founder is just a title, not a privilege fools ;)



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (8/1/2011 20:27:13)

Cyber Shari said something about what Founders are entitled to should i quote it to remind them



DeathGuard -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (8/1/2011 20:33:05)

You should quote it dude



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (8/1/2011 20:37:07)

Ashari page Three
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Angels, you must understand that beyond what was initially advertised with the promotion, Founders are entitled to nothing else. Anything they've gotten beyond that (10 enhance slots, a 1000 free Varium) was purely a gift.




AxeOFury -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (8/1/2011 20:38:43)

I thought we already agreed that non-founder will not get founder skin? I'm confused :S



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (8/1/2011 20:40:33)

non founders wont get it but the current debate is with Golds idea if Founders without armor get the Foudner skin with my idea that isnt an issue



Angels Holocaust -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (8/1/2011 20:40:39)

The 10 enhancement slots were not given, it was bound to happen because of the introduction to enhancements. We never asked for the 1,000 varium. They can take it back for all I care, we asked to upgrade our founder armor not a crappy amount of 1,000 varium. If we don't get what we want then we don't want anything at all.



pokepwner -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (8/1/2011 20:44:17)

@Angel

I may not know how ED is priced,but 1000 varium is essentially free money.


quote:

If we don't get what we want then we don't want anything at all



That's just sad, i'm not even going to say selfish, just sad.



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (8/1/2011 20:45:49)

@poke
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The more we succumb to their terms the less power we founders will receive.

how does that sound to you its a quote from Angels



Shadow Jester -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (8/1/2011 20:47:24)

This is pathetic. All you founders are forgetting alot of things. You guys are just ignoring it.
"Founders armor won't be the best armor in the game forever".
All I see is lLamb0,Nub,Angels, and other founders complaining for a buff...
I am a proud non founder.No i'm not jealous. Founders always has stupidity in their posts.
Lamb0 always thinks he is the best
Angels has the tendency to insult people.
...



aqwshadowking14 -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (8/1/2011 20:48:43)

Theres a better solution to all this, give Founders +8, not +9 for free. Do not give us another buff til another armor has more stats then Founder and we will pay for that buff so we are equal in stat and resistance/defense. No need to take more time to build in another system that is going to take quite an amount of time.



pokepwner -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (8/1/2011 20:48:47)

@OWA

The more i read these posts the more i feel sorry for the community.



Fay Beeee -> RE: Skins or Buffs? (8/1/2011 20:53:15)

It is a shame to see this thread going into a discussion about founders getting buffed/upgraded.
The topic was skins NOT buffing.

A skin can be used for various reasons.
When a new armour comes out which you like, but may not like the style. You can put on the skin of the armour that you do like.
How about if they have a skin for all armours - With a specific seller - May be Mirv.

So if you buy it there (credits or varium) anyone can get it.

I have the amour, I am a founder, I am NOT asking for a buff.



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