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IsaiahtheMage -> Why is luck not fixed yet? (8/10/2011 16:04:15)

Why? Today their has been a insane amount of criticals today. A lvl 30 BH non-varuim with just a weak primary critted me 3 times and raged and killed me and ended with "ur a noob". On top of that I had more support. They had like 26 and I had 45. I mean eitheir the RNG needs fixing or luck needs a nerf. I think both need fixing. I am sure a lot of you guys had the same situation. Also no. This is not another one of "I lost one match thanks to a crit. Boo hoo fix it Titan!" type threats. I am just showing one example this has happened in about a dozen matches in a row. With peoples support eitheir being lower matching mine or being slightly higher.



zippinbolts -> RE: Why is luck not fixed yet? (8/10/2011 16:07:15)

So true, I blocked a guy with 40ish dex when i had like 22 6 times in a row. I think the RNG is bahroken.



TurkishIncubus -> RE: Why is luck not fixed yet? (8/10/2011 16:08:12)

Luck is out of control , it needs to be fixed. The annoying thing is Low stat players do more luck things than higher stat ones :/



Bunshichi -> RE: Why is luck not fixed yet? (8/10/2011 16:09:38)

I have not experienced any luck in 2 vs 2 :o and I'm using a str build.



zelemania -> RE: Why is luck not fixed yet? (8/10/2011 16:11:42)

I haven't experienced anything special npcing other than 3 consecutive crits from valery.



Stabilis -> RE: Why is luck not fixed yet? (8/10/2011 16:13:16)

-because it can't be touched.



frogbones -> RE: Why is luck not fixed yet? (8/10/2011 16:13:20)

You know what I find so odd? How long did players have to "complain" that Gamma Bot was too powerful? And they are just now changing it? What in the world took so long? Are they *that* disconnected from the actual gameplay?

The point is, players have been begging the devs to change the luck factor for a long time, yet they have done very little to make us feel like they're listening.

Why?





zippinbolts -> RE: Why is luck not fixed yet? (8/10/2011 16:16:08)

The way I see it they fix all of the things *wrong* with the game on a 4-5 month lag, the dev's need to work a bit faster.



Callisto -> RE: Why is luck not fixed yet? (8/10/2011 16:21:52)

I agree 100%.Today a guy with 20 supp less than me and weak primary managed to deflect my aux and then crit me 30 with his primary while his primary on normal strike hit me only 3.I lost...cause of luck.
Also smoked people with less than 10 dex somehow manage to block,guys with 20 supp manage to crit...it shouldn't be this way,it's not even funny anymore.



IsaiahtheMage -> RE: Why is luck not fixed yet? (8/10/2011 16:23:20)

@frobones Yup. Pretty much. They obviously eitheir dont care about their players that much or they really dont know how to please us. Or maybe they really just "cant" implement certain things in the system or ED is going to "crash" or become "broken".

@Callisto Exactly. I smoked a STR TLM so that he could not hit me that much. He had 7-9 def after being smoked(Meaning VERY LOW dex) and I had 22-27 yet he manages to block. He then proceeds(With about 26 support) to rage crit and kills me. While I had 19 more support. I know my support is not that high but compared to his it was.



DeathSpawn -> RE: Why is luck not fixed yet? (8/10/2011 17:45:29)

quote:

We've been undertaking what has become and increasingly more massive project this summer to essentially rebuild the foundations of the EpicDuel game code. What started as a modest rewrite has turned into a full scale war against bad, old code and confoundingly inefficient database designs that should allow us to do things that we previously deemed to difficult or outright impossible to implement. The parts of the game being rewritten are the same things that have prevented us from introducing more bots, more quests, more class changing items and more of everything you like about the EpicDuel.

Thanks again for your patience and understanding as we usher in a bold new era of features and content for our humble little game.


That's Night explaining it.

http://forums2.battleon.com/f/tm.asp?m=19433607 And this here is Titan.

So apparent they don't care. Why would they wanna make money?? You peeps are so right they hate money and have no interest in this game.

Quite apparent this is the part of the community not needed in this game. Might I suggest HeroSmash?



IsaiahtheMage -> RE: Why is luck not fixed yet? (8/10/2011 17:54:36)

@Deathspawn The question is. What took them so long to do that? Did they not see ED was failing from before? What took them so longe to relize ED needs a change? Apparently they dont care about this game as much as we thought. Why did it take the 4 phases(2 years) of this game to relize the game needed a massive revamp?! Its just insane.



The Galin Killer -> RE: Why is luck not fixed yet? (8/10/2011 18:28:52)

Because they've been revamping it. It WAS a modest rewrite, as Night said. Now, they're redoing the old code. For all you know, they've been doing this ever since Gamma came out but it got more and more complex. It's not like they just said "Hey, we'll rewrite it this summer and it'll only take a few weeks. Hurrr."



edwardvulture -> RE: Why is luck not fixed yet? (8/10/2011 18:31:01)

You can't fix luck. Its just something that's there.



PumKing -> RE: Why is luck not fixed yet? (8/10/2011 18:35:48)

@Deathspawn---your heart is in the right place, your smugness/sarcasm is not

@IsaiahtheMage---Daethspawn does have a point, while you do too (it has taken an obscenely long time for them to even admit, let alone start working on fixing the problem), we as a player group have become disillusioned, jadded and bitter, but for good reason. However, we can not let the devs lack of power (due to old code) keep us this way. We MUST have a positive attitude about this if thing are going to get any better, quite frankly, I think that Titan and Nightwraith haven't said much die to the fact that they have been working so hard recently, we have to give them a chance, however for many it will be a last chance, and for me, very close to the end of the rope.



frosty123 -> RE: Why is luck not fixed yet? (8/10/2011 20:45:33)

honestly i would be more than welcomed if they took a few months off to work on the balance, stuff they promised and lag and all other stuff that would make this game more fun. as long as when their time is up they dont give the same bull they gave me a few weeks ago.



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Why is luck not fixed yet? (8/10/2011 21:00:35)

there is some serious RNG hate going round last time i playered i got 16 Deflects in a row on my Aux and my Support is not terrible its 50some



bluerain28 -> RE: Why is luck not fixed yet? (8/10/2011 21:02:57)

LOL!!!
There is no such thing as LUCK CODE. The code is random and it depends on the the system. Devs cant change that and they cant do anything about it unless lowering the % of the crit stats of the code. Luck is luck. No one can adjust or CODE or FIXED a "LUCK". That's why is it called luck.



DeathSpawn -> RE: Why is luck not fixed yet? (8/10/2011 21:12:27)

Now now bluerain.....that's not what peeps want to hear. The truth causes flamming as players get extremely defensive round here.



bluerain28 -> RE: Why is luck not fixed yet? (8/10/2011 21:16:01)

Not want to hear the truth? It doesnt go to flamming. Just saying the truth about the topic "Luck". They must know the truth so that they will stop complaining and flamming. We aren't kids. I don't know about the others thou.



frogbones -> RE: Why is luck not fixed yet? (8/10/2011 21:51:39)

Ugh. It's so frustrating trying to argue with people who get hung up on semantics.

Of course there is no "luck code." No one said there was. Simply put, players have two concerns:

1) That "luck factors" (crits, blocks, and to a lesser extent, deflects) happen too often--- i.e., the percents are too high and play too much of a role in determining who wins.

2) That the RNG is not working as intended.

Straightforward enough for you?



Lord Barrius -> RE: Why is luck not fixed yet? (8/10/2011 22:09:30)

Locking. All balance discussion from this point on will be restricted to a single thread, to be created soon. Thanks!



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