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Drakadh -> RE: =ED= DNS August 12, 2011 - The Unending Battle for Better Flash Performance (8/12/2011 23:24:12)

@ Angel Holocaust Wow! You've changed! I like it!

I Agree with Holocaust, I wonder how the community would like to see something unfinished. I can imagine it now, you would be angry and spam "WHY DIDN'T YOU TESTED THIS BEFORE RELEASING THIS?!?!"

:L I really dont want a community fight for something THIS SMALL =,=" Try comparing this would other games, I actually waited for other games for years, halo reach for almost 2-3 years , but its worth it since it passes all my expectations.

So, I hope some veterans do understand, I mean, you can do something else while waiting, Farm in-game or talk in-game or out-game.



~LA




Sageofpeace -> RE: =ED= DNS August 12, 2011 - The Unending Battle for Better Flash Performance (8/12/2011 23:24:34)

@Lord Barruis

We wait it for Juggernaut since the beginning of the game more them a year and what did we get a crappy 2vs1 battle mode where you Literally get Free wins how is that for Quality?

sure in the other game like AQW they get what they wanted even after a year but it was a great update and you don't see them paying every single month to stay as a top player, but epicduel is different players pay AT LEAST 50$ WORTH OF MONEY EVERY MONTH yet even when they do a monthly update all get is disappointing

they have don't too many useless feature with the solo purpose to drive every single penny out the players wallet, by now the game should at least have some balance common look at 2vs2 is a disaster, they have 4 week break with this one so next week if the update common out i hope is something HUGE just like they made look like.

P.S

IM SO MAD THAT HALF OF THE WORDS ARE WRITTEN INCORRECTLY




Drakadh -> RE: =ED= DNS August 12, 2011 - The Unending Battle for Better Flash Performance (8/12/2011 23:34:06)

@SoP Dont compare ED with other AE games, you can see that they have a bigger team than AE, keep that in mind before making a posts.

ED is different then other games, and if you played AQW like 2008 you would see it had some problems as well. :L

and Note ED is still going under testing phases, be happy they let us in before the ACTUAL game comes out. :L

That said may I say to the haters, "Come by and play ED once its out!


~LA




Cinderella -> RE: =ED= DNS August 12, 2011 - The Unending Battle for Better Flash Performance (8/12/2011 23:42:01)

I'm not sure how I was supposed to have predicted a problem with Flash before the latest update of Flash, but I apologize for not noticing it and getting it fixed sooner. Titan's been talking back and forth with the people from Adobe, and we're anticipating a midweek update as soon as we have a workaround.

I'm always willing to take responsibility when things are my fault, and even when they're not, but this is one delay that I could not have possibly foreseen. I'm not happy about this either.




od -> RE: =ED= DNS August 12, 2011 - The Unending Battle for Better Flash Performance (8/12/2011 23:42:55)

What about venom strike? I didn't see it on the list.




Sageofpeace -> RE: =ED= DNS August 12, 2011 - The Unending Battle for Better Flash Performance (8/12/2011 23:44:49)

@Drakhd

really?

so went is the we are "Small team excuse going to end"

why in the word would i be happy that they let us in before they release the game they charge just for logging in. they treat us like crap in forum and is literary i insulting the excuses they give us is like we don't have a Brain.

well Lord Barruim look so professional and everything about changing this community he should go directly to the source of it which is TITAN AND NIGHWRAITH NOT WORKING. Really for week in a row announcing design note and them just delaying in it Really?

Also Drakath im about 80% sure that epicduel make more money them Dragonfable and yet the developer from Dragonfable do such a great just and make so little, a 50$ on dragonfable is worth like 5 years.

do dragonfable or AQW charge 10$ for a weapon PLUS 10$ more to make Powerful?

Cindy Just stop please is so "retard" sorry if it sound harsh, you been apologizing for Months thats a great thing to see but it does not change how thing are,First im sure a o lot people wouldn't care if you have release the update with all the lag on google chrome since we ALSO GOT FIREFOX, SAFARI or Any other.

IM STARTING TO THINK THAT YOU ARE JUST FINDING AWAY TO ANNOUNCE THAT THIS GAME WILL BE CLOSE! SHOULD I BE WORRY?




T.600 -> RE: =ED= DNS August 12, 2011 - The Unending Battle for Better Flash Performance (8/12/2011 23:49:08)

quote:


Damage Skills: Plasma Bolt, Fireball, Overload, Plasma Rain, Super Charge, Artillery Strike, Multishot, Surgical Strike, Bunker Buster, Plasma Cannon, Stun Grenade, EMP

Buffs: Technician, Field Commander, Reflex Boost,

Debuffs: Malfunction, Intimidate, Smoke

Shields: Defense Matrix, Energy Shield

Other: Hybrid Armor, Blood Shield, Assimilation, Super Charge, Toxic Grenade


This will definetly stop skills such as hybrid armor and bunker buster being overpowered at lower levels, and it will allow some skills that are rarely used (such as multishot) to be used more frequently in builds. I can't wait for these balance changes, I'm surely going to try a caster build with buffed technician, overloard and super charge :D.

Don't raise the level cap please; it will cause so many issues that we don't need. Firstly, there's no GOOD NPC's to farm at level 34. At level 33, I fight two shadow guards and valery once. I like it this way, I don't want to have to fight valery, the lawman and admin. This could decrease the amount of people who NPC for wins at high level, but they should just implement more regular NPC's first. Raising the level cap will mean that our older weapons will become outdated, and newer weapons will have to be released. This means that people will have to spend more money to buy new weapons. We don't have enough level 33 weapons yet as well, non-rare or rare. It will also increase the balance issues; juggernaut will become harder, everyone will have more stats (which makes stat abuse/focus even more feasible) but modes such as 2vs2 might benefit because you might get better partners. Raising the level cap, just to give us something to do isn't a good idea. It's better to implement more features, I know making features takes more work, but the overall result is more appealing and it lasts longer. What happens when everyone reaches the level cap? When everyone (most people) reach the level cap, we will be faced with these issues that I've stated.





Drakadh -> RE: =ED= DNS August 12, 2011 - The Unending Battle for Better Flash Performance (8/12/2011 23:51:52)

@SoP

If you are not pleased by the game, then try making it better, instead of giving reasons to hate it.

And DragonFable is over 6 years, (Correct me if I am wrong) While ED is just 2 years old, You do the math and check who has much time to find problems, and DF is less complicated then ED, if a Class on DF is a bit OPed no one will mind, since PvP is Player vs AI Player, While in ED If one class is OPed by 1% theyll need to figure out how to make it less OPed, and more balanced.

So NEVER Compare a game that has different mechanics then other games.

Its like comparing Barbie with CoD =,="

TO be on Topic: Delays are nothing to me, its the release I am worried about xD

~LA




Cinderella -> RE: =ED= DNS August 12, 2011 - The Unending Battle for Better Flash Performance (8/12/2011 23:53:42)

@Sageofpeace- I'm not preventing you from discussing the problems with the game. And Titan and Nightwraith ARE working. Even when they're not in the office, they're working. It's just the order in which things must happen.




Sageofpeace -> RE: =ED= DNS August 12, 2011 - The Unending Battle for Better Flash Performance (8/12/2011 23:55:51)

well should i compare EPICDUEL WITH McDonald they sure have something similar they BOTH MAKE MONEY VERY FAST

Trying to make better it what i seem countless of time by many player with great idea and suggestion yet non have been taking on consideration yet we have (FAME FOR FAME,RARITY SCORE,WAR KILLS,HOUSE,BIKE, A ACHIEVEMENT SYSTEM THAT SUK AND MANY USELESS THINGS)

CIndy it has been four weeks

and just like you say everything is almost ready why don't titan or nighwraith drop by and post something refreshing because clearly apologizing countless of time is not working




Cinderella -> RE: =ED= DNS August 12, 2011 - The Unending Battle for Better Flash Performance (8/13/2011 0:07:02)

@Sage- I know. And Titan and Nightwraith have both said multiple times that my word's as good as theirs.

I apologize because I am pretty much the designated scapegoat, lol.

Also, I personally hand-pick suggestions from the forum and forward them to the devs.




king julian -> RE: =ED= DNS August 12, 2011 - The Unending Battle for Better Flash Performance (8/13/2011 0:12:43)

quote:

We'll be usuing
You spelled using wrong btw :P not trying to be annoying.

This is but one change in factions and the faction war but WHOA.




Sageofpeace -> RE: =ED= DNS August 12, 2011 - The Unending Battle for Better Flash Performance (8/13/2011 0:16:02)

Cindy i know im been a pain right now but thats even more reason why i just wanted titan or nighwraith to posted even if is not the real them posting, i have no desire to get my anger out you i wanted to SCREAM AT THOSE TWO WHY if they design and code which are the one that give out the information of course they are you just put what they tell you that is going to happen but is not happening.

there is just so many thing that we would like to discuss with them in Public not by Pm, since we join this forum we been oppress, our right have been torn out by people who don't even play the game and i don't necessary mean LORD BARRUIM since he just got the position but we have been disappoint so many time that it JUST JUSt!!




Ashari -> RE: =ED= DNS August 12, 2011 - The Unending Battle for Better Flash Performance (8/13/2011 0:24:38)

quote:

ORIGINAL: od

What about venom strike? I didn't see it on the list.

Venom Strike is a special case since it's part % based skill (it does 75% of primary damage) and part flat damage. It's going to be handled as % base skill instead, so it will now use 75% of your primary weapon damage but receive full benefit of your base damage from strength. This should be a buff to Venom Strike for most builds, as long as your strength isn't abysmally low anyway.

Toxic Grenade will have its poison damage scaling upward, while Venom Strike will have its initial damage scaling upward.




Hun Kingq -> RE: =ED= DNS August 12, 2011 - The Unending Battle for Better Flash Performance (8/13/2011 0:25:32)

So the early release of the past two Fridays by using a LQS sytem screwed over players out of items they wanted and now a flash update is screwing over the players of the changes that might be a positive change. The update should have been released as schedule and tell players which browser to use and if they don't use that browser then it is their fault and the flash could have been dealt with throughout the night because by now we basically are use to the slow response battles.




beastmo -> RE: =ED= DNS August 12, 2011 - The Unending Battle for Better Flash Performance (8/13/2011 0:36:50)

Cool another delay i was actually waiting for this update but i guess you cant trust ED anymore




poker123 -> RE: =ED= DNS August 12, 2011 - The Unending Battle for Better Flash Performance (8/13/2011 0:42:55)

Calm down. You guys can wait. Like i always say good things goes to those who wait.[:D]. Also I think they will make a even better update:).




beastmo -> RE: =ED= DNS August 12, 2011 - The Unending Battle for Better Flash Performance (8/13/2011 0:44:44)

^ We waited a year for boss battles nuff said




Yo son -> RE: =ED= DNS August 12, 2011 - The Unending Battle for Better Flash Performance (8/13/2011 0:50:36)

If we, the ED players( paying players mostly) treats you guys the way you been treating us for these past months, the best scenario I see this game in, is at the testing phrase of Alpha, and that's the best case scenario;

If we been treating you guys the way you treat us, it will be the same, as, you guys making promos, and only 1 person buys it, making weapons and no one buys it, introducing new features and no one try it out. If we did this to you guys, this game will not be here right now.

@xXx89xXx, don't mind Angel, she is the princes of trolls, either she been brainwashed, or every thing she is saying is sarcasm.




Angels Holocaust -> RE: =ED= DNS August 12, 2011 - The Unending Battle for Better Flash Performance (8/13/2011 0:59:21)

@ Yo son

I'm Not Trolling. I Want Everyone Here To Stop Complaining. Don't You See? The Devs Are Giving Us Tough Love, The More We Complain, The More There Going To Postpone It.

If We Want An Update, We Should All Sit And Wait Patiently. No More Crying Or Trolling. It Get's Us No Where.




Chosen 0ne -> RE: =ED= DNS August 12, 2011 - The Unending Battle for Better Flash Performance (8/13/2011 1:02:17)

^We got free juggernaught because of it lol




Synbad Syndicated -> RE: =ED= DNS August 12, 2011 - The Unending Battle for Better Flash Performance (8/13/2011 1:03:42)

my god angel, i have been waiting for some to say that. i never expected you to be this rational. now if only some of us would be smart enough to understand.




Angel Of Chaos10 -> RE: =ED= DNS August 12, 2011 - The Unending Battle for Better Flash Performance (8/13/2011 1:09:33)

@Lord Barrius

The only difference being that EpicDuel doesn't release at all. Every professional game on the internet releases when they say they will. If its every week, they have one every week. If its a monthly or bimonthly release, they do it on the designated date and at the promised time. If problems arise, they work it out, they work harder, and they get it done. EpicDuel does none of these things. The developers promise features, and they never deliver. They promise a time, and it gets delayed. They announce a new battle mode, and it takes them a year and a half to get it done. You don't even play this game! How could you possibly know about it? I suggest you stick to the AQ forum, but that is not my decision. However what I can say, is that you really shouldn't be correcting ME, a long time player of this game. I know more then you will ever know about the false promises, and delayed releases that have plagued this game since AE took over.

While you may be right, AE is somewhat unique considering they release every week, EpicDuel doesn't. Furthermore, unlike ALL other games, they don't release on the time or date they have promised, and if they do, the release contains at MOST half of the features originally listed.

Maybe every game doesn't deliver every week, but EpicDuel doesn't deliver at all. Thats the problem.


Angel Of Chaos




ShadowQupid -> RE: =ED= DNS August 12, 2011 - The Unending Battle for Better Flash Performance (8/13/2011 1:13:50)

@Pharax you mean if only ALL of US xD anyways I find it great how much they're trying to make OTHERS (US) HAPPY but it saddens me to see people being to rude, ignorant and no to mention incredibly impatient.

I'm usually the type of person that'll straight pick a few people that complain and then tell them off using some of the smarts I've picked up from my mother but, in this case,
I see no point in doing that because these players have already been picked and told off (Somewhat) yet they continue.

You've been waiting for a year, blaah blahh blahh, ok leave the game for 1 or 2 months and come back only to see how much they actually ARE giving us, then you'll learn to appreciate.

JEEZ louise.




Lord Barrius -> RE: =ED= DNS August 12, 2011 - The Unending Battle for Better Flash Performance (8/13/2011 1:17:05)

I'll ask that all further discussion of forum policy stay in PM with me as I've asked before. However, I do want to respond to this:
quote:

ORIGINAL: Sageofpeace

there is just so many thing that we would like to discuss with them in Public not by Pm, since we join this forum we been oppress, our right have been torn out by people who don't even play the game and i don't necessary mean LORD BARRUIM since he just got the position but we have been disappoint so many time that it JUST JUSt!!
There's that word again. Oppressed. I really don't get that word's continued use in this forum. Being forced to work in poor working conditions for little or no pay is oppression. Being physically beaten when you don't do as you're told, that's oppression. Having your rights trampled on, your property stolen from you, and your voice ignored, that's all oppression. Being told not to flame other people or face the consequences for refusing to show other people the respect they deserve? That's another word entirely: expectations.

When you agreed to join this forum, you agreed to follow its rules. You agreed to the Terms and Conditions of this forum. And one of our biggest expectations out of our users is to treat others with respect and dignity. AEF hosts a massive range of opinions and people, some of whom may be more easily offended than others. You can't just blurt out whatever comes to mind, that's how feelings get hurt. And when feelings get hurt, we (as forum staff) are obligated to act in order to keep the forum a safe community for everyone.

This isn't unique to the AEF, it's a fact of life that if you choose to say whatever you want, wherever you want, without thinking about anyone else or the possible problems you could create by doing so, you will face consequences for those actions. At your place of work, there are certain expectations to be followed. If you cuss out another employee or a customer, you can probably expect that your boss won't just pat you on the back and say "well, you were just mad". You can probably expect that you'll be outside on the street corner without a job, pretty much on the spot. Similarly, you can't scream "FIRE" in a movie theater and then tell the cops that it was all in good fun. You can instead expect to find yourself getting cozy in a jail cell for disturbing the peace.

We have not, and will not, ever tell you that you can't get angry when you don't like something. We're also never going to tell you not to express your point of view. What we will tell you to do is to find constructive ways to express those points of view. And I should emphasize, again, that's not the same thing as saying "you can't have an opinion". What we've always asked you to do is to control that anger, channel those feelings of frustration and rage, and put them together in a calm, polite, and constructive fashion that won't offend, insult, or degrade anyone.

Right now, I suspect the reason that it seems so difficult to see the difference between "you can't have an opinion" and "you can't be rude and nasty to each other or the staff" is because you lack experience with such a thing. You all came from a forum which tended not to react to these sorts of behaviors, and that was okay at the time because the community was composed primarily of older people. But you're in a forum with very young players, as well as very old players, now. That method of expressing yourselves is no longer "okay", because it can lead to a lot of people getting upset and a lot more hurt feelings, rather than contributing to fixing the problem. We're certainly not trying to oppress anyone here. But we have a job to do, too. We have to make sure that our forum users are protected from things that might cause them emotional or mental harm, and that sometimes means that posts which veer too far have to go. We have expectations of all of you to post in a manner that will help us keep the forums safe and friendly for everyone, and when everyone starts doing that, the forums will start seeming like a far less "oppressive" place than you may think.

And now, let's please try to keep the topic focused on the subject at hand: the Design Notes. Remember....control your anger and channel your feelings into a calm, polite, constructive post that still tells the devs how you feel, without resorting to insults or flaming. That little change makes a BIG difference in how your posts are read and received by others!




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