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Laufey -> CH are the lower class of mage? (10/21/2011 9:44:44)

for me YES...

They did not have weapons of attack,they have only the multi-shot but it is too expensive for the damage it causes. as well as the plasma grenade is too expensive for the damage it causes.

In addition, there aren't suitable weapons,energy wrist blades are very few...it would take a blade-like claws frostbite but energy.
In addition, because EMP Granade LV 1 energy requires is 10, but is only 6 for Atom Smasher ?
Shadow arts is useless if you have high dexterity.

There will never be the CH that can compete with the TM and the mage until there will be considerable improvements ... for now I remain mage.


Sorry for google translate.


Nazgul



Gepard Acht -> RE: CH are the lower class of mage? (10/21/2011 10:02:42)

no, TM and CH fight in a dif way and why do you call it a lower class of mage?

first of all you dont need to use energy blades in CH ,any wep will do
emp needs a bit more ep cuz its unblocakble, and i say it one of the best/ most annoying move in the game
and SA will increase the chance of blocks and so will dex, its not useless to put SA when you have high dex, instead it gives better chance of blocking
And if I use your logic , mercs dont need high dex cuz of hybrid and BH dont need SA just when they have high dex, see how that doesnt make sense?

and thats so arrogant saying that
quote:

there will never be a CH that can never compete with the TM and the mage


I say that it depends on the people playin them and the build



Laufey -> RE: CH are the lower class of mage? (10/21/2011 10:09:37)

quote:

first of all you dont need to use energy blades in CH


Why ? if I wanted to use the massacre with what I use it?



PenyihiR -> RE: CH are the lower class of mage? (10/21/2011 10:19:43)

Depends On The build..,
But When CH n TM using same stat , i think TM is better



drinde -> RE: CH are the lower class of mage? (10/21/2011 10:22:21)

If a CH has good enough Dexterity, the player can run circles around mages by Static Charging and Heal-Looping.

Plus, if used with a good strategy, CHs are devastating.



Gepard Acht -> RE: CH are the lower class of mage? (10/21/2011 10:23:31)

you can stll use Physical blades , i even made a CH version of my BH build that is a high lvl massacre build



Laufey -> RE: CH are the lower class of mage? (10/21/2011 10:32:14)

there is no strategy devastating ... I've tried many strategies but the CH remain lower class...

Maybe just a strategy could be fine and that was with high support and high dex .. but when heal do not increases with support ... it has fallen dangerously ....

quote:

you can stll use Physical blades , i even made a CH version of my BH build that is a high lvl massacre build


then what is the Malfunction? only to decrease the smoke scrren?

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Gepard Acht -> RE: CH are the lower class of mage? (10/21/2011 10:38:25)


^ you dont even need to use it if you dont wanna, is there a rule saying that massacre needs some debuffing before use?



Laufey -> RE: CH are the lower class of mage? (10/21/2011 10:44:49)

The Auxiliaries weapon with high support is better of massacre with physical or energy wrist blade without malfunction....and no expansive energy



TurkishIncubus -> RE: CH are the lower class of mage? (10/21/2011 11:15:12)

i disagree

first of all
quote:

In addition, because EMP Granade LV 1 energy requires is 10, but is only 6 for Atom Smasher ?(thats because atom is blockable but emp is not)
Shadow arts is useless if you have high dexterity.(i think shadow art is useless if you use low dex :P, if you use high dex it almost guaranty blocking)


next...
CH has Massacre and Venom which are very different than TM skills also in my opinion Static Charge is better than reroute in every 2 turns it gives +20 energy :O



Elf Priest JZaanu -> RE: CH are the lower class of mage? (10/21/2011 12:09:24)

The Cyber Hunter is unique for skills like Static is unblockable or defendable. Just this alone, this skill can be used very effectively for a multitude of purposes. It is a fascinating class, and it is still new, so it will be still be developing by the players and staff.



Laufey -> RE: CH are the lower class of mage? (10/21/2011 12:20:20)

skill static is blockable

quote:

i disagree


why the CH are few?

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Arcanis -> RE: CH are the lower class of mage? (10/21/2011 12:55:20)

Because Tlm are many.



Laufey -> RE: CH are the lower class of mage? (10/21/2011 12:58:46)

since everyone here on the forum say that the CH are as strong as ever in ED are few? I'm missing something or those who say they have never been CH?



EDBrainMaster2.0 -> RE: CH are the lower class of mage? (10/21/2011 12:59:24)

Firstly, do NOT double post...
Secondly...there are reasons why CHs are a few.
People say TLM is OP with its new heal-looping build.
CH when NOT used correctly, is pathetic.

Btw, don't a lot of people say TMs are just about crippled since the heal nerf. Not saying i hate TM cos i was originally one before i turned to BM. I like both classes but for god's sake do not compare two different class...They have different strategies you know..



I am Primal -> RE: CH are the lower class of mage? (10/21/2011 13:13:00)

well i'm ch and i get +80% win ratio in 2 vs 2 yes the class is weak but if you are a good player and can you the class it;s actually not bad but saying that it needs something like frenzy



ur going to fail -> RE: CH are the lower class of mage? (10/21/2011 13:22:39)

Lets see.. mage's have deadly aim, bludgeon and assimilation (major skills most TM's use). CH has the same stuff as TM, but traded out DA, bludgeon and assimilation for EMP, massacre, SA, and cheap shot. CH got the advantage skill wise, but at the cost of using strike more.



Elf Priest JZaanu -> RE: CH are the lower class of mage? (10/21/2011 13:24:53)

Interesting, I alway thought anytime the static skill is used, it returned energy back even-though though the attack could be blocked. My apology on my error in assuming it can't be blocked from return energy. It is a class I like, and if I did use this class, I know I could be effective with it in competing. Every person is different in their style of play, and within that, development of builds can progress or digress.



rej -> RE: CH are the lower class of mage? (10/21/2011 16:29:23)

While ch's DO have many of the same abilities as mage, they often do not use similar strategies.

mages generaly lean either towards extreme support or a form of tank build. meanwhile, ch's also occasionaly use tank builds, but they more favor strengh abuse.



Algorithm -> RE: CH are the lower class of mage? (10/21/2011 16:52:34)

Tech Mage is great.



FrostHS -> RE: CH are the lower class of mage? (10/21/2011 21:30:27)

Cyber is better by far. People don't think this because they have never been it, and never will due to the fact that i's 'UP'. Waaay off lol. I rarely lost before the nerf because heal helped me a lot but i still win about 90% of the time and i don't get beaten by mages so yea. Cyber is better.



Stabilis -> RE: CH are the lower class of mage? (10/21/2011 21:34:16)

Its UP with shadow arts.

-a Cyber Hunter



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