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goldslayer1 -> Tips, Tips and Tips (11/10/2011 23:08:05)

/Begin sarcasm
Pro Tip #1: use low dex it helps u block alot against higher dex, even when smoked.
Pro Tip #2: even if u use nearly the same dex as ur enemy u will still block alot because u have +50 luck and enemy dont
Pro Tip #3: dont worry about support, even if ur support is crap u will still deflect and crit once or more per match
Pro Tip #4: and lastly ALWAYS say "gg" or "gg noob" when u perform all of the above and ur enemy doesn't.

/End sarcasm

so what are ur tips for the ED community?



Stabilis -> RE: Tips, Tips and Tips (11/10/2011 23:16:28)

Avoid challenges by beating up NPCS then calling them noobs...

Pro tip: Maxing your passives makes you big and strong.



AQWPlayer -> RE: Tips, Tips and Tips (11/10/2011 23:26:53)

Pro tip #5: Always challenge boss NPCs with only starter weapons. This way you will block all of their blockable attacks and deflect their gun attacks.
Pro tip #6: Whenever you feel like something is wrong in the game, just post about it on the forums and it will be fixed within a week.



Remorse -> RE: Tips, Tips and Tips (11/10/2011 23:32:53)

As much as I dislike luck factors.

It is the only thing that can take down STR TLMs for me good thing I get quite a few blocks though I deserve it I have alot more dex.

What I dont understand is the countless time I have been blocked with reflex on giveing me over 150 Dex and my oppenet smoked and under 50 yet the still blcok me OFTEN that is the bad part, minumum block chances need to be lowered and redcued luck chance to dex at a faster rate.



Retrosaur -> RE: Tips, Tips and Tips (11/10/2011 23:35:36)

My tip is to post in the forums something related to the TOPIC *ahem* Remorse *ahem*.



PivotalDisorder -> RE: Tips, Tips and Tips (11/10/2011 23:36:24)

if you pick tac merc, dont complain when somehow everything isnt stacked in your favour in every single fight until the end of time.

thats my tip.



nico0las -> RE: Tips, Tips and Tips (11/10/2011 23:38:23)

Rage quit now. You're on a very unpleasant road.

/end gloom.

Heavily armor yourself, because Gold is right, all stats except strength DON'T WORK FOR [insert profanity].

If anything, roll with strength.

I'm so sorry, but I have 50 support and haven't gone first all day.
I have 80 dex, and my opponent with 20 in a 2v2 managed to block my static charge.
Tech is absolutely useless.
I've gotten some useful crits here and there, but I haven't deflected a thing with my build.

Str build works like a charm [:D]

@AQW What this world you speak of, these "forums?" All I see are complaints -.-
I'm not better.
@Remorse welcome to my world.
@below EXACTLY!!!1!1!111!



goldslayer1 -> RE: Tips, Tips and Tips (11/10/2011 23:38:55)

quote:

Pro tip #6: Whenever you feel like something is wrong in the game, just post about it on the forums and it will be fixed within a week.

by who? LMAO



PivotalDisorder -> RE: Tips, Tips and Tips (11/10/2011 23:41:48)

I think he was using sarcasm like you did.

i just couldnt be bothered myself and we all know why ur nerdraging anyway.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Tips, Tips and Tips (11/10/2011 23:43:25)

quote:

i just couldnt be bothered myself and we all know why ur nerdraging anyway.

if luck factors had as many haters as TLMs the devs might actually do something about it seeing how it is alot easier to reduce luck factors



PivotalDisorder -> RE: Tips, Tips and Tips (11/10/2011 23:45:20)

dex and str have become the most valuable stats no doubt, game can feel kinda pointless if you use a high tech build but
I aint really bothered about it while tactical mercs are ruling all 3 formats and str bhs ruling 1. id rather be blocked by a
balanced class than not blocked by an unbalanced one, if you get my point.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Tips, Tips and Tips (11/10/2011 23:56:30)

quote:

dex and str have become the most valuable stats no doubt, game can feel kinda pointless if you use a high tech build but
I aint really bothered about it while tactical mercs are ruling all 3 formats and str bhs ruling 1.


str BH is good. 90%+ for sure as it always was.
bh tank is also good, i got beaten by some several times.

and i seen good support BH with physical aux and gun with energy claws.

well im proud of myself today :D
i finally got a block on someone with lower dex today [:)]



PivotalDisorder -> RE: Tips, Tips and Tips (11/11/2011 0:20:42)

you cannot count something you have no control over as an achievement :P also your block was a total fluke



goldslayer1 -> RE: Tips, Tips and Tips (11/11/2011 0:23:29)

quote:

you cannot count something you have no control over as an achievement :P

then ED cannot count wins that involved luck because the players had no control over the luck factors :P

quote:

also your block was a total fluke

NUUUUU[:(]
LIES[:@]



ND Mallet -> RE: Tips, Tips and Tips (11/11/2011 0:25:57)

@gold Every battle has luck in it so that means the game would never count any battle. The damage range of your attacks is luck based and if you're unlucky you could get stuck doing minimum damage against an enemy dealing maximum damage. If you were to remove luck from this game then you would have the same damage every turn and battles would be over before they ever started.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Tips, Tips and Tips (11/11/2011 0:33:54)

quote:

Every battle has luck in it so that means the game would never count any battle. The damage range of your attacks is luck based and if you're unlucky you could get stuck doing minimum damage against an enemy dealing maximum damage. If you were to remove luck from this game then you would have the same damage every turn and battles would be over before they ever started.

i know that.
but still even with damage ranges having luck factors in, if block crits and deflects were lowered the outcome of battles would still depend on the player's move. now it doesn't even matter what move u do as there is a high chance of it getting blocked.

what annoys me the most is that someone with way lower dex than me blocks me.

im just trying to imply here that luck factors should be lowered.

block by 10%
Crits by 3%-5%
Deflects by 5%



wow just now recently 8 dex blocked me twice when i had 116
at this point im seriously considering keeping a log of all blocks, crits, and deflects done by enemy.



ND Mallet -> RE: Tips, Tips and Tips (11/11/2011 0:43:25)

@gold Do me a favor and collect some numerical evidence. Record all your blockable attacks and skills, how many times they hit, get blocked, the accuracy of said attacks, and the dex of both characters. I tried it once and after 50 battles I determined that blocks weren't happening as much as they should be. In over 90% of those battles I got blocked under the actual % of blocks. That means instead of being blocked 40% of the time when I had 80 dex less, I usually got blocked 35% of the time or lower.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Tips, Tips and Tips (11/11/2011 0:47:12)

@mallet
u remember what they did to stat progression?
after 55 the amount required for the next lvl rises up by 1? and then 85...
they should do that for %s to balance it out.
eventually it would cost alot more to have a high %

quote:

Do me a favor and collect some numerical evidence.

well heres one non npc fight i did a couple minutes ago
quote:

wow just now recently 8 dex blocked me twice when i had 116


it was a 5 turn fight.



ND Mallet -> RE: Tips, Tips and Tips (11/11/2011 0:49:28)

"The plural of data is not anecdote."
A story is not mathematical proof. Post every blockable attack you used and how many times they got blocked, how many times the opponent used a blockable attack and how often it got blocked and then it becomes data.



PivotalDisorder -> RE: Tips, Tips and Tips (11/11/2011 0:58:36)

you would need thousands of fight results to truely give a more accurate figure.

sometimes I think their is a few bugs in the coding too. like how if im level 31, I hardly ever go first against 33s. when i was 30 i did, but went 2nd against 32s and so on down to about
level 29. as I was levelling multiple characters I really noticed it a lot. I also notice it in my favour when I am playing my 33s. seems to me part of the code is broken i certain situations.



Lectrix -> RE: Tips, Tips and Tips (11/11/2011 1:48:28)

The luck factor will always exist in EpicDuel. High Dexterity or Support does not guarantee that you will Block or Deflect all attacks. No matter how much Dexterity or Support you use, there will always be a chance that your attacks will be Blocked or Deflected.

You may create Threads to promote constructive discussions of the luck factor. But Threads created for the sole purpose of complaining will not be tolerated.

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