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I am Primal -> how to stop people complaing about class balance (12/3/2011 4:17:05)

what if battles were like class only battles like all bh all tech mage ect. so therefore battles wouldn't be unfair class wise only when it comes to varium then no one would have to nerf anything. and tactical mercs would actually have be challenged. insted of simply not using it's full power.
and all classes could compete to see whos best and this could maybe lead to the tournaments later. what do you guys think could this work?

discuss !




Xendran -> RE: how to stop people complaing about class balance (12/3/2011 4:28:20)

no




I am Primal -> RE: how to stop people complaing about class balance (12/3/2011 4:34:51)

and may i ask what class are you? perhaps tactical merc?




rej -> RE: how to stop people complaing about class balance (12/3/2011 4:56:07)

You do not need to ask, he has his account linked.
I have to agree with... it. No. Absolutely not.




Xendran -> RE: how to stop people complaing about class balance (12/3/2011 5:01:37)

I was a tech mage. I'm a tact merc atm but i dont even play anymore.




supermasivo -> RE: how to stop people complaing about class balance (12/3/2011 5:25:50)

wrong post, pls delete it.




Darkwing -> RE: how to stop people complaing about class balance (12/3/2011 5:30:20)

make it a new battle mode? class-only battle thing? thats would be nice.




Remorse -> RE: how to stop people complaing about class balance (12/3/2011 8:07:53)

I am not a tactical merc, I dislike the balance currently and I dislike fighting TLMs.


But this is still a teriable idea.

Its boring enough as it is having to fight the same build betweens classes as it is, having to fight your own class constatnly would be even worse.

Also LUCK would become teriable, the fact builds are becoming so similar already show that LUCK becomes teriable in these situations.


SO a definate no from me, Sorry.




Stabilis -> RE: how to stop people complaing about class balance (12/3/2011 9:52:36)

We can all be happy if Tactical Mercenary either loses the MAGE skill reroute or technician...




I am Primal -> RE: how to stop people complaing about class balance (12/3/2011 9:55:52)

agreed rain reroute has to go everyone knows it.




Remorse -> RE: how to stop people complaing about class balance (12/3/2011 9:58:25)

^ either that or hybrid,

If hybrid was removed then at least good old normal mercs will revivied




InceptionAE -> RE: how to stop people complaing about class balance (12/3/2011 10:03:02)

No. It'll get boring facing the same class.




Stabilis -> RE: how to stop people complaing about class balance (12/3/2011 10:03:03)

I think they need hybrid though because that is reeking of pure mercenariness.




Remorse -> RE: how to stop people complaing about class balance (12/3/2011 10:07:10)

^ Disagree,

Hybrid is basically the opisite of "tactical"

Maybe if their name was TANK merc, if hybrid was switched for Defence matrix it would be alot more "tactical" then the laziness hybrid allows.


Also.

DID the Hunter in CH keep Blood lust?

DID the mage in BM keep reroute?

NO.

WHy does TLMs get to keep thier orignals classes main passive, why else do you think no one wants to go normal merc because they are too similar to TLMs and completely outmatched.




Stabilis -> RE: how to stop people complaing about class balance (12/3/2011 10:12:38)

^ TlM gets HA

BM gets DA

CH gets SA

... Remember, Mercenary is the only starter with one passive!




Remorse -> RE: how to stop people complaing about class balance (12/3/2011 10:18:13)

^Did I mention MAIN pasive,

Yes I did

We both know Deadly aim, and shadow arts are not main passives, meaning they are not always doing something, SA when your opennet is not using blockables and deadly aim when your guns in cool down.
Hybrid, BL and Reroute however can be said to be always in effect because players can adjust their build to fit thier advanatges, meaning mercs can use less atts on dex and more on watever, mages can uses less on mana and more on watever, and BH can focus on being powerful builds to gain more HP.

Also Old mercs were the only starter class with one passive becaause it is so dam powerful, now put that togther with anothe rmain passive and its nowonder why they are oped.

They have to lose hybrid if they wanna set TLMs at the same advanatge at the start of games as all other classes.
Plus to reivive old mercs.




I am Primal -> RE: how to stop people complaing about class balance (12/3/2011 10:19:04)

hybrid isn't the problem it;s the dam energy they get back spamming skills.




Stabilis -> RE: how to stop people complaing about class balance (12/3/2011 10:19:36)

What do you mean main passives? HA, DA have both been here from very early on.




rej -> RE: how to stop people complaing about class balance (12/3/2011 10:24:31)

quote:

^Did I mention MAIN pasive,

Yes I did

We both know Deadly aim, and shadow arts are not main passives, meaning they are not always doing something, SA when your opennet is not using blockables and deadly aim when your guns in cool down.
Hybrid, BL and Reroute however can be said to be always in effect because players can adjust their build to fit thier advanatges, meaning mercs can use less atts on dex and more on watever, mages can uses less on mana and more on watever, and BH can focus on being powerful builds to gain more HP.

Also Old mercs were the only starter class with one passive becaause it is so dam powerful, now put that togther with anothe rmain passive and its nowonder why they are oped.

They have to lose hybrid if they wanna set TLMs at the same advanatge at the start of games as all other classes.
Plus to reivive old mercs.

if you use logic like that:
reroute is not active when your opponent is adding a buff, healing, or being blocked.
hybrid is not active when your opponent is using an energy attacks.
blood lust is not active if you're adding a buff, healing, or you're blocked.




Remorse -> RE: how to stop people complaing about class balance (12/3/2011 10:25:22)

@Primal,

yes but the energy they get for spamming skills wouldnt not be a problem if you could kill em quick and you could without extreme defneces.

Plus TLM need reroute as they have alot of skills which need it, were as they dont need the constant hybrid advanatge on top of it all.




Stabilis -> RE: how to stop people complaing about class balance (12/3/2011 10:34:44)

Also, blood lust is not amendable if health is full; reroute is not amendable if energy is full.




Remorse -> RE: how to stop people complaing about class balance (12/3/2011 10:40:18)

^
quote:

Hybrid, BL and Reroute however can be said to be always in effect because players can adjust their build to gain advanatges, meaning mercs can use less atts on dex and more on watever, mages can uses less on mana and more on watever, and BH can focus on being powerful builds to gain more HP.




Stabilis -> RE: how to stop people complaing about class balance (12/3/2011 10:57:30)

And because health is full blood lust is still draining health? I don't think so.




Remorse -> RE: how to stop people complaing about class balance (12/3/2011 11:05:21)

NO, But because BH have BL they can deliberatly make thier builds powerful while having to reily less on defesive stats, similar to how hybrid stop mercs needed to worry about dex.




supermasivo -> RE: how to stop people complaing about class balance (12/3/2011 11:06:12)

^ Tac mercs still have their "main" passive skills Hybrid armor couse its the ONLY PASSVE SKILL THEY HAVE... Tech mage = Reroute and Deadly aim, evolution? Still have deadly aim and BH's Bloodlust... in case of BH = Shadow arts and Bloodlust! and evolution? CH = SA and a "semi-passive" very OP BUT BLOCKABLE static charge.




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