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Remorse -> The ED Not To-Do's (12/4/2011 22:42:29)

It seems that people are always sugesting things that they want in this game, yet no one fears what they don't want to happen before its too late.

So Im making a NOT to-do's were players can add and DISCUSS items in which they do not want to be implanted and may serve as a useful source to the devs as to what Players do not want and it may avoid things such as players getting angry all the time.

Rules:
Post reasonably sensible ideas and discuss and support these ideas and justifiey why you think they should not be introduced. Do not place ideas of what you WANT the devs to do this is a list of what you DON'T want them to do.
NO flaming and leave others opinions to themselves.

BONUS:
Also if you dont wanna post things to add to this list you can also say you agree on certain things people sugest and I will tally the amount of people who like a particular idea to make a rating.
NOTE: stars (*) represent rating by peoples choice.
EDIT: You can also add negative rating, if you dislike an idea and provide clear evidence why then I will remove a rating.

Feal free to discuss any sugested ideas but remeber respect other opinions.

THE NOT To-Do's
    DO NOT.....
  • Add ehacements to Robots <rating ***>
  • Add more requirments to TLMs <rating**>
  • Make new promos UNsellable during the promo time then make them Sellable after its over, either one or the other. <rating**>
  • Release more Weapons with Stunning Specials. <rating**>
  • Release new Classes before Balancing the current ones. <rating***>
  • Trading <rating>
  • Offer lots of free varium <rating*>
  • 3v3 <rating*>
  • DO NOT Continue to continue Stat inflation which exponentially exacerbates everything. <rating***>
  • Make a robot drop instead of just giving a purchasable bot for a non variums <rating>
  • make the varium prices still the same and not changing them even if a mod says that the prices are a bit expensive<rating**>
  • make enhancements on bike(we do not want more enh in game it will just makes tings worse)<rating***>
  • make drop mission like the paint mission from Steve 2.0 (come on i have not gotten a single paint at all and i basically gave up on that mission)<rating*>
  • make mission which need like 15 bag slots to complete(come on 11 bag slot was hard for non var and var players too. havens sake make the mission have a different bag slot or something)<rating***>
  • make u be able to transfer credits and varium from 1 acc to another something like *Cough* hackscape oh i mean runescape. 1) to prevent hacking <ratng**>
  • Do not keep raising the level cap frequently because when the level cap is raised the staff feel obliged to make overpowered weapons for the new level.<rating***>
  • Do not make any credit bots-- robots should be a luxury only for those who have varium.<*>
  • Do not make a new type of weapon slot.<***>
  • Do not appoint random people to any of the various testing teams who may not be viable candidates for the job. <**>
  • Do not have new Battle Modes until 2v2 and 2v1 are fixed<**>
  • Do not have any item that immediately outclasses all existing ones in a reasonable time period, like 5 months <**>
  • Make robots only acsessable through drops <*>
  • When balancing only concentrate on 1v1. <**>




drinde -> RE: The ED Not To-Do List. (12/4/2011 22:48:52)

Ok....

DO NOT:
1. Release more Weapons with Stunning Specials.
2. Release new Classes before Balancing the current ones.



Remorse -> RE: The ED Not To-Do List. (12/4/2011 22:51:43)

^ Thats good also try to agree with certain ideas so i can make a rating thanks.



drinde -> RE: The ED Not To-Do List. (12/4/2011 22:53:12)

I agree to your 1st one and the 2nd, but I don't buy packages so can't comment on 3rd.



OprahFTWFrey -> RE: The ED Not To-Do List. (12/4/2011 22:53:54)

I agree with not adding enhancements to robots, the promos, stunning special weapons, and classes. But I don't understand what you mean by them adding more "requirements" to TLM's.



Remorse -> RE: The ED Not To-Do List. (12/4/2011 22:53:58)

@drinde
done thanks.

Above,
It means do not add more requirments to TLMs as a suplement for balancing them.



Luna_moonraider -> RE: The ED Not To-Do List. (12/4/2011 22:57:03)

ok here is my list

DO NOT:

-Make a robot drop instead of just giving a purchasable bot for a non variums
-make the varium prices still the same and not changing them even if a mod says that the prices are a bit expensive
-make enhancements on bike(we do not want more enh in game it will just makes tings worse)
-make drop mission like the paint mission from Steve 2.0 (come on i have not gotten a single paint at all and i basically gave up on that mission)
-make mission which need like 15 bag slots to complete(come on 11 bag slot was hard for non var and var players too. havens sake make the mission have a different bag slot or something)
-make u be able to transfer credits and varium from 1 acc to another something like *Cough* hackscape oh i mean runescape. 1) to prevent hacking because people will now have a motive to hack more acc to get more credits and varium. 2) to prevent experienced players from making new accounts and transferring credits earned by their alt to their main.
-do nothing to tokens (yeah what can u do with token 1)buy cheevo 2) scam arcade 3) flags that is if u have a faction)

Note: the do not have been bolded

well that all for now i think i also gave reason so that it wont be a listing thread.



ND Mallet -> RE: The ED Not To-Do List. (12/4/2011 22:57:53)

Do Not Do:
Trading: This can be abused if you get hacked. Instead of losing your items to a shopkeeper, your scammer is now running around with the items you bought with money while he paid nothing for them. This would also lead to increased scamming because they would want your stuff even more.

Large amounts of free varium: Look at AQ. Huge prices of Z-Token items. Why? Because you can get 1-9 after a battle and up to 100 from Ballyhoo if you're lucky. Plus you get huge amounts of them from the Housing System. I got an easy 50$ of tokens for doing nothing. Do you want to pay Z-Token prices in ED?

3vs3 or any larger amount of players in a battle: Lag is one problem but the main problem is that 3 guys teaming up on one player means he's dead before he gets a turn. So which ever team goes first is most likely to win.

Also, might want to encourage posting reasons as to why they shouldn't implement some of these ideas or this may get locked for being a list.



Remorse -> RE: The ED Not To-Do List. (12/4/2011 22:59:48)

^ Noted thank you



PD -> RE: The ED Not To-Do's (12/4/2011 23:07:20)

DO NOT Continue to continue Stat inflation which exponentially exacerbates everything.



rej -> RE: The ED Not To-Do's (12/4/2011 23:28:59)

Do not try to fix balance with nerfs. it's allready been tried and tested dozensof times. Try buffing instead for once.



Jekyll -> RE: The ED Not To-Do's (12/4/2011 23:32:39)

@Luna The paint is a 100% drop from the guard in Admin 12's right.



drinde -> RE: The ED Not To-Do's (12/4/2011 23:32:40)

@above
LOL!

+ 1 * to:

-Make enhancements on bike
-Make a robot drop instead of just giving a purchasable bot for a non variums
-Make mission which need like 15 bag slots to complete
-Make u be able to transfer credits and varium from 1 acc to another*
-Continue to continue Stat inflation which exponentially exacerbates everything.

*note: I don't think the devs would be so ignorant as to implement this, lol...



Luna_moonraider -> RE: The ED Not To-Do's (12/5/2011 0:24:39)

@ jekyll
o.O i tot u had to kill light city guards in fortune city to complete the mission.ok drop mission like admins 12 mission to get the enforcer 2e those mission are kinda hard and i do hope the devs dont make like 3 of those for xmas event.

@ drinde

idk the devs are unpredictable no 1 predicted they would remove delta weps before delta ended so we can assume the devs would do something like that.




Bu Kek Siansu -> RE: The ED Not To-Do's (12/5/2011 1:09:46)

  • If I may give my 2 cents to correct some typos: :)

    quote:

    It seems that people are always sugesting things that they wont in this game, yet no one fears what they dont want to happen before its too late.

    So Im making a NOT to-do's were players can add and DICUSS items in which they do not want to be implanted and may serve as a useful source to the devs as to what Players do not want and it may avoid things such as players getting angry all the time.

    Rules:
    Post reasonably seansible ideas and discuss and support these ideas and justifiey why you think they should not be introduced. Do not place idea of what you WANT the devs to do this is a list of what you DONT want them to do.
    NO flaming and leave others opinions to themselves.

    BONUS:
    Also if you dont wanna post things to add to this list you can also say you agree on certain things on the list and I will tally the amount of people who like a particular idea to make a rating.


    Did you mean?
    wont = won't
    dont = don't
    its = it's
    Im = I'm
    DICUSS = DISCUSS
    seansible = what does it actually mean?
    DONT = DON'T
    dont = don't
    tally = tell

  • I'm sorry if I'm wrong in this case. Thanks. :D



    • drinde -> RE: The ED Not To-Do's (12/5/2011 1:12:33)

    ^
    seansible is sensible. :]



    Jekyll -> RE: The ED Not To-Do's (12/5/2011 1:26:56)

    @AVA Tally is the correct word to use in that situation. Tally means to count, to sum up.



    Remorse -> RE: The ED Not To-Do's (12/5/2011 2:21:04)

    ^ Im not very good at spelling,

    Mainly due to my mild case of dislexie (prberly spelt wrong but you get the idea xD)

    Anyway if it bugs you guys so much il try to fix my errors.



    T.600 -> RE: The ED Not To-Do's (12/5/2011 2:33:05)

    @AVA: Why would spelling matter as long as the post is legible? You failed to identify all the spelling errors as well by the way :P.

    On topic-

  • Do not keep raising the level cap frequently because when the level cap is raised the staff feel obliged to make overpowered weapons for the new level.

  • Do not make any credit bots-- robots should be a luxury only for those who have varium.

  • Do not make a new type of weapon slot.

  • Do not appoint random people to any of the various testing teams who may not be viable candidates for the job.

    P.S: I'll add more when I can think of more and if you guys are so concerned about spelling, do you want me to PM Remorse a fully edited version of this post?



    • Bu Kek Siansu -> RE: The ED Not To-Do's (12/5/2011 2:37:26)

    I'm sorry for my mistakes. Thanks for the corrections and explanation, drinde and Jekyll. :)



    drinde -> RE: The ED Not To-Do's (12/5/2011 4:03:29)

    Anywho, + Ratings for:

    Do not keep raising the level cap frequently because when the level cap is raised the staff feel obliged to make overpowered weapons for the new level.
    Do not make a new type of weapon slot.

    My own ideas:

    -Do not have new Battle Modes until 2v2 and 2v1 are fixed
    -Do not have any item that immediately outclasses all existing ones in a reasonable time period, like 5 months

    Reasoning for:

    Idea 1: If they can concentrate on old battle modes, they'd finish balancing it faster.
    Idea 2: To allow weapons to retain reasonable effectiveness for some time.



    Luna_moonraider -> RE: The ED Not To-Do's (12/5/2011 4:56:07)

    quote:

    Do not make any credit bots-- robots should be a luxury only for those who have varium.


    i gotta disagree with this and minus 1 rating from this because 1) The bots variums can have atm are way powerful 2) most non varium do not have a bot and it is unfair to them 3) making a credit bot will also allow varium to get the bot( i m sure the devs will put a reasonable price so that not all players can have the bot also i think the devs are gonna make it a seasonal rare to make control the amount of non variums from having bots) 3) varium players have +40 stats more than non variums

    Best stat a NOn var merc/tlm can have

    25+6 from mjolnir
    16+6 from pirate blunderbuss
    13+8 from carrierzooka
    16+5 from bio hazard husk P/E

    grand total:95 stat points

    Best stat a varium merc/tlm can have

    28+10 from delta destroyer sword
    19+8 from stun guns(any stun gun)
    19+8 from eggy zookaz
    16+8 from tesla armor

    Note: idk the stats for nw weps but i think they are better so this might not be accurate
    grand total:116 stat points

    116-95=21 stat

    now that is if u are fully enhanced if u r not well that a different case. and note that the enhancing is hard as it is quite expensive to do so.most varium players will run round with +116 stat while most non var would have lesser than +95 stat maybe no enhancements and having just 68 stat that is like 48 stat difference. i would say 48 is a lot that like 8 dmg/armor/resis. so think bout it do u think u can still win a fully enhanced var without full enhancements. yes u can win with luck but with skill not in million years.



    Gepard Acht -> RE: The ED Not To-Do's (12/5/2011 5:11:52)

    no drops for bot i beg you

    make it cost a lot i dont care, at least i can get it



    Remorse -> RE: The ED Not To-Do's (12/5/2011 5:18:17)



    Also I would like to downgrade a rating for trading, Yes trading has its problems and hacks but I think the advanatges outweigh the disadvanatges.
    Trading will allow for alot better prices and will also allow for better prices on enahcments etc.

    Plus ways could be made to avoid hacks scams etc, such as trading pins, were a player makes a pin which allows accses to their inventory to trade and this feature could make it even safer then it is now because with an inventory safe pin it would stop hackers/scammers selling players wepon etc.





    FrostHS -> RE: The ED Not To-Do's (12/5/2011 6:54:24)

    No enhancements for Stunning weps? Ok sure, but gimme all my var back i used for my stun cannon and stun blaster.



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