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Rui.. -> assault bot abuse... (12/9/2011 13:30:02)

seriously i am getting piss with platers who have focus lvl 1 use the assauly bot to get the 80% debuff benifit..

titan .. or someother programmer .. does it make sense what i am talking about... can the debuff % be modified to improve with focus level..

i need to know .. thanks

anyone else this this is wrong or am i right?

Post edited. Watch your language. ~Mecha




IsaiahtheMage -> RE: assault bot abuse... (12/9/2011 13:58:11)

Then that will only encourage people to use 5 Focus even more. So that would be quite boring to see everyone using the same build. Besides that their is absolutely nothing wrong with the debuff. You should either get the Assualt Bot yourself or stop complaining. A 80% debuff for only a few turns is no problem.



supermasivo -> RE: assault bot abuse... (12/9/2011 13:59:43)

LOL please delete this xD



Rui.. -> RE: assault bot abuse... (12/9/2011 14:16:06)

why ?

make it focus lvl 1 15% debuff
level 2 30
lvl 3 45
lvl 4 60
lvl 5 80


if u want a robo and wanna use its full potential u better have focus..




IsaiahtheMage -> RE: assault bot abuse... (12/9/2011 14:19:58)

^ And that will encourage people to either buy a bot and use a 5 Focus build or not buy one at all. Because a 15% debuff is useless. And if you don't even have level 1 focus then you have 0% debuff. So I disagree. The devs would lose money if no one buys robots anymore and the game would be boring with a a bunch of 5 Focus users all the time. So either scenario is bad.



supermasivo -> RE: assault bot abuse... (12/9/2011 14:21:53)

Couse u will FORCE to players to play 5 focus! couse obviously is a lot better have 80% debuff than 15%
And its not a abuse, couse assault bot cost a lot of varium or if u have a lot of lucky in arcade mode...
U are being selfish couse u use 5 focus build and its annoying use assault bot instead attack with it! BUT U SHOULD flame against devs couse of "nerf of bots" like 5 updates before when u could use debuff and next round attack without waiting 3 rounds.



Rui.. -> RE: assault bot abuse... (12/9/2011 14:31:29)

assault bot is a free bot.. even a lvl 20 noob has one from the arena.. for a free robo to be so OP . its kinda overpowering..

i bet u both who r supporting this are tactical mercs .. who just want some easy game play .. no skills whatso ever.

talk logic and think out of the box. it wouldnt take me 5 minutes to change to a 120 strength tact merc and pawn ppl..

enuff said.

i wanna hear what the dev's have to say for this.. the bot was fine when there were no enchantments.. now almost every one has either 120 strentgh or 120 support and a assault bot.. its total bullsyt if u ask me


my jeti seems powerless compared to an assault bot

Post edited. Watch your language. ~Mecha



Zeoth -> RE: assault bot abuse... (12/9/2011 14:36:56)

Yeti is good in its own way. Assault bot isnt OP it's just someone using why they have to their advantage. It's not OP it's smart



IsaiahtheMage -> RE: assault bot abuse... (12/9/2011 14:48:30)

@Supermasivo Are you talking to me? @Rui What are you talking about? Their is no way to get the bot free unless you get lucky in arcade which is unlikely. Supporting this? I am not supporting anything about this thread. And who are you to judge me saying I just want easy game play and have no skills whatsoever? Actually it would take longer because in order to do that takes a lot of money! Your exagerrating.



frogbones -> RE: assault bot abuse... (12/9/2011 14:49:06)

Somehow I think the OP's only purpose of this thread is to misspell a bad word in order to get away with it.

Bad language. Bad suggestion.



Lord Nub -> RE: assault bot abuse... (12/9/2011 14:49:53)

I can see the frustration here but that's just another flaw in the balance logic of ED and something that was put into place to level the playing field so everyone isn't running around with 50+ debuffs.

The problem with the Assault Bot is everything Rui stated and the problem without it is everything everyone else stated. It just so happens the game swung this way is all.

One common ground could be to lower the power of debuffs so they would not be so overwhelming and do as rui said with the focus deal but that is unlikely.



Rui.. -> RE: assault bot abuse... (12/9/2011 16:49:44)

every class a buff for a debuff, bounty have reflex and energy shield. mercs have hybrid and blood sheild/tech, blood mages have reflex and tech, tech mages/cybers have matrix and tech...

i dont see a problem here!

the issue is when someone with single beefed up stat is able to render a debuff absolete with just a robo and lvl 1 focus.

if thats the case let the yeti eat the stat points of the gun and aux! let it never block let its special be used over and over like the special of the assault!

that or make the assault robo special be blockable or used only once throught the game.




Zeoth -> RE: assault bot abuse... (12/9/2011 16:59:38)

I do see your point here but problem is assault bit has been implemented into the game for so long they won't change it



edwardvulture -> RE: assault bot abuse... (12/9/2011 17:05:41)

Your just mad you don't have one. Why don't you get a build that don't get affected much by robots. It isn't really an abuse, its part of strategy.



Smackie El Frog -> RE: assault bot abuse... (12/9/2011 17:47:53)

lol man up TC.



IsaiahtheMage -> RE: assault bot abuse... (12/9/2011 17:51:45)

Edwardvulture is right. Don't try to nerf the bot after all this time just because you don't have it. You can buy it using varium or get lucky in arcade(lol unlikely).



Elf Priest JZaanu -> RE: assault bot abuse... (12/9/2011 17:54:17)

With Assault bots, it does provide builds to expand, since they don't have to focus on defense so much. They are difficult, but the other option is having all varium players use 5 focus builds. Though I do feel 80% debuff is quite high, just remember, a players uses a turn and your rage builds faster. If one plans ahead with strategy for Assault bot, one can still compete.



Jekyll -> RE: assault bot abuse... (12/9/2011 17:58:52)

I agree this is like a rage forum thread from some kid who has failed at getting assault bot from the arcade countless times. Insulting others here, including tac mercs, is so bloody childish.



Reki -> RE: assault bot abuse... (12/9/2011 18:03:58)

Raging over the fact you don't have one and wanting it need to benefit you, using inappropriate language and getting worked up at everyone is a poor way to go about this.

Well aside from this ridiculous childish thread going to be deleted/locked I have to simply say I disagree with you sir.



edwardvulture -> RE: assault bot abuse... (12/9/2011 18:05:59)

@jekyl no the right to insult tact mercs are given to everyone since they've dominated for so long



Jekyll -> RE: assault bot abuse... (12/9/2011 18:06:32)

I just realised he has a robot jeti/Jedi xD



AO24 -> RE: assault bot abuse... (12/9/2011 18:35:04)

yes you are so right about the insult part that could and most likely upset anyone who is new to the game [:(]



rej -> RE: assault bot abuse... (12/9/2011 18:50:30)

Supported.



Gepard Acht -> RE: assault bot abuse... (12/9/2011 19:16:22)

yea i do agree that assault bots effect is to good , maybe reduce it to 50 %



drinde -> RE: assault bot abuse... (12/9/2011 19:51:31)

Actually, what about it having a base of 50% rebuff, and +5% for each focus level?



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