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State Alchemist -> Challenge Missions (1/8/2012 18:51:18)

These are just as bad as fame. You have to go around begging for fights.

Please stop making these!

I like doing missions, but I despise havingt o go around asking people to accept fights.

People like to do this (fight each other) socially, not as a task



Agiluz -> RE: Challenge Missions (1/8/2012 18:53:24)

You don't have to beg for it... just challenge random people and hopefully you can finish your mission.



Jekyll -> RE: Challenge Missions (1/8/2012 18:59:43)

Worse still, dummying is encouraged. I would prefer something like 15 1v1 wins or 10 2v2 wins.



Cinderella -> RE: Challenge Missions (1/8/2012 19:43:43)

Right now, we don't support missions requiring random wins. I tried to make the latest ones have a very low challenge requirement so as not to encourage dummying.



Sparticus -> RE: Challenge Missions (1/8/2012 19:55:25)

Cindy, I had the most trouble with that mission. No one would fight me. I don't think that's fair. I'd rather go through the 1v1 or 2v2 button also. At least players can't avoid me or other players they "think" they can't beat. ( I stress the word think)



Xendran -> RE: Challenge Missions (1/8/2012 20:04:54)

I hate challenge missions



xxmirxx -> RE: Challenge Missions (1/8/2012 20:12:27)

Sparticus only way you could get them to fight u if just get remove your varium weapons go all non varium. That means NO ROBOTS



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Challenge Missions (1/8/2012 20:16:24)

Spart you can always ask your buddy list I ask my buddies 5-5, which works perfectly for this update I must add, I get five wins they get five wins no ones ratio has changed and we are both done the horrible challenge mission



Xendran -> RE: Challenge Missions (1/8/2012 20:22:46)

5 wins and 5 losses changes ratio.

1 win and zero losses = 100% win rate
6 wins and 5 losses = 54.5% win rate



xxmirxx -> RE: Challenge Missions (1/8/2012 20:26:41)

DElete by me



goldslayer1 -> RE: Challenge Missions (1/8/2012 20:30:37)

i dont like the 5-5. and it does lower ur ratio.


quote:

Right now, we don't support missions requiring random wins.

well u should support it.
i challenge someone and they wont accept the fight saying they know im going to win.
then i have to go begging them to accept the fight and thats its for the mission.

its really irritiating, specially the one mission that required 40 challenge wins. that was pure overkill and not needed.
if ur going to make these "challenge missions" then allow NPCs to count as part of those wins or make it so that u can also get wins from the random PvP.



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Challenge Missions (1/8/2012 20:32:14)

@Xendren at the cap or near it playing with a bunch of beta players the change is so minimal it doesnt bother any of us.

This is my record before and after a 5-5
1937 wins - 1806 loses = 51.75%
1942 wins - 1811 loses = 51.75%

the difference comes after the second decimal place which even the leaderboards don't track.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Challenge Missions (1/8/2012 20:38:55)

@owa
try doing ur 5-5 for the mission that requires 40 challenge wins.
ill it with my ratio tho.
33304 battles - 30975 wins - 93.00%

after the 5-5 for 40 wins

33384 battles - 31015 wins - 92.90%

it those make a difference. the higher the % the bigger the difference.



DillBagel -> RE: Challenge Missions (1/8/2012 20:39:20)

1937 / (1937 + 1806) x 100 = 51.74993321%
1942 / (1942 + 1811) x 100 = 51.74527045%

It does change, but at the win record most people have it's barely enough to change anything. I know for a fact most people actually worrying about those missions have numbers way larger.



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Challenge Missions (1/8/2012 20:42:19)

@Gold 5-5 came about because no one was taking challenges for Pumpklever.

And if you go back to your normal ratio after a set of 5-5 your ratio would go back up to 93%


for 5-5 to really hurt you you would need a real dummying missions of like 100-200 challenge wins



Cinderella -> RE: Challenge Missions (1/8/2012 20:43:05)

@goldslayer- it's on my wishlist.



Basicball -> RE: Challenge Missions (1/8/2012 20:46:48)

these are my least favorite missions as well, but hey, i like mission like this over no mission at all, no matter what

and i don't have problems finding fights either, people always tend to wat to fight with me, so all i have to do, is challenge, and they accept, then, in the fight, they ask me 'are you recording his?' >.>

oh well, at least i don't have a problem finding challenges, right xD


P.S.: this mission was different, i just killed pactel once, morgan/cookydough twice, and someone else who i forgot (sowwy :3) twice, finished in under 15 minutes after accepting ;)



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Challenge Missions (1/8/2012 20:48:32)

@BB using your fame to get challenges that is just wrong..... mind if i do the same thing



Sparticus -> RE: Challenge Missions (1/8/2012 20:53:49)

I always felt that trading wins for losses was a cop out but I have to admit this time around I did just that. It was most expedient but least satisfying so thanks for the great mission, I really enjoyed it. [:-]

As an aside, my alts all got challenged just fine. That's just so wrong!
The worst part is if you are Legion, you can't complete 2 missions if you decide not to battle 5 Exiles but it's not the same for the Exiles.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Challenge Missions (1/8/2012 20:56:06)

these missions force pros players to do a 5-5 and dummy for wins.
(never did, nor considered a 5-5 due to taking losses)



xxmirxx -> RE: Challenge Missions (1/8/2012 21:00:20)

Well staff sure need think about mission because your just making hard for those who don't cheat. Sparticus if u don't want give free wins then make deal with ones you fight against.



Elf Priest JZaanu -> RE: Challenge Missions (1/8/2012 21:16:34)

With Challenge missions, the issue is balance (stats/dmg/enhancements).

I feel the only way to balance it out is either have a specific mode for challenge missions, or if there was a special required armor,primary, gun, and aux just for challenge missions.

Think of it as a uniform. With the uniform, all stats would be equal, and the only advantage a player will have is their level if they happened to be higher.

What would make it more interesting, if a new mode just for uniformed challenge matches were created.

This is one of the main reasons challenge missions are lower levels are easily accepted. My example is from my alt mage.

Elf Lector JZeera
http://epicduel.artix.com/charpage.asp?id=Elf%20Lector%20JZeera


If you view all the missions, she has completed all challenge missions so far prior to the war.

By adding a uniform and a special mode, both balance and dummying will decrease.



BlueKatz -> RE: Challenge Missions (1/8/2012 21:18:10)

I don't even bother to do them, they are not fun



Battle Elf -> RE: Challenge Missions (1/8/2012 21:23:12)

Here's what I thinks going on,

The ED staff wants to encourage the community, get new players talking to new players. At the base these missions are a good wy at implementing interaction.

Altough the quests are good at interaction, there are a couple downsides.
For the people who already have quite a few long time friends, these quests hurt their ratios, and their time.

I think these missions are alright at low levels, 5 challenges perhaps. I think Cindy did a good job managing this



Just my opinion
Battle Elf



xxmirxx -> RE: Challenge Missions (1/8/2012 21:28:55)

Well make it like skyrim or make ps3 game of ed



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