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TTG Sean -> Epicduel gone backwards. (1/24/2012 15:57:08)

I've played since the long ago (RIGHT) after alpha days and I personally think the game every stage has gone backwards.

/thoughts



TurkishIncubus -> RE: Epicduel gone backwards. (1/24/2012 16:00:02)

I agree its less fun but it improved in content and balance.



TTG Sean -> RE: Epicduel gone backwards. (1/24/2012 16:01:08)

Still, now this game seems more as a job then a game.



Oba -> RE: Epicduel gone backwards. (1/24/2012 16:06:47)

Indeed it is going backwards. You could think that after 3, and in the 4th (counting with Alpha now), test phases it would be on its way to be a great game. Yet it was better in the second test phase e.e (May have been better even in Alpha, I didnt take part of that phase so I cant really speak about it.)



sylar67 -> RE: Epicduel gone backwards. (1/24/2012 16:20:00)

loool this game has become like a money thing ... money dies throught time but here in an ultra fast way ... pay 50$ get what you paid for in the 1st 2-3 weeks then bamm your 50$ is worth nothing :) new weapons came out pay another 50 ....



IsaiahtheMage -> RE: Epicduel gone backwards. (1/24/2012 16:46:17)

Epicduel has improved a lot in Content and Balance. Except when it comes to Luck and The GAP still. And also the horrible community. Besides that its fine.



Stabilis -> RE: Epicduel gone backwards. (1/24/2012 16:47:22)

Notice how the newer classes rip skills from the originals?

What we could have simply done is add new skills to the original classes and if required, make any upgrades a fee.



Fay Beeee -> RE: Epicduel gone backwards. (1/24/2012 17:19:23)

And to the others of you.

What suggestions do you have as to how you could improve it to 'your satisfaction'!?

Or is this just another 'moaning' thread.?


- Post edited to remove unnecessary content
M4B



Ranloth -> RE: Epicduel gone backwards. (1/24/2012 17:24:38)

Quite funny Dunk, money draining? I haven't bought $50 package since Delta came out, as I wanted the items and needed Varium. Now it's nearing end of January, still have fair amount of my Varium left (about 4K). Only because new item came out, doesn't mean you have to buy it.. Most weapons will be the same but different stat setup, and for Armors - it's the same.
I use my Founder Armor, whilst I own Tesla. I do regret Tesla as I can compete with Founder and lose no more but -2 Res at max, at Lvl 34 (I'm 32 atm).. Worth it?

If there's no answer, then you won't be back? Trying to put players off from the forum and even the game is not good, your excuse will be fact ED is overpriced and you can say so? That's why the community doesn't go along.



DeathGuard -> RE: Epicduel gone backwards. (1/24/2012 17:27:19)

This is reason why I quit forums(not game), complaining, flaming and such riots that belong to little kids makes me feel like I want to punch the OP of threads like this.
The irony is that my thread: "Mission Feature Module" is being overshadowed by some useless thread like this, I think it is crap to things like that happens.
My question is why do you keep playing if you don't like how the game is being managed?
Or it is that you have the contrary opinion of what you're saying? Do you still have faith? IF so, contribute with a good criticism and ideas to make it better just don't complain like a little kid.



TTG Sean -> RE: Epicduel gone backwards. (1/24/2012 17:39:39)

How am I complaining? I simply said they are going in the wrong direction. Back then it was a small but reasonable GAP between Non varium and varium players. There was much more creativity in builds and there was more enjoyment in the players. Now you can admit it or not, this game is Pay to Win. If you don't buy new equipment after the next promo or release, you're at a big disadvantage.
The reason I haven't completely gaven up on this game is because, it had potential. I remember playing with Titan and Cinderella back then, everyone was happy and having a great time. Now, it's keep paying or fall behind. Who wants to HAVE to keep paying to win?



Fay Beeee -> RE: Epicduel gone backwards. (1/24/2012 17:55:36)

Dunk, sorry but it is not up to me to convince you. I personally make my own fun. I set targets to reach in various things. Chat with good friends.
Oh just thought of something. The other day I won the hero in the fryste land war WITHOUT varium.



nico0las -> RE: Epicduel gone backwards. (1/24/2012 18:10:42)

The game has it's ups and downs, that's true. However, I suppose we ARE making progress (hence not going backwards).
The game progressed from a tiny little speck on the face of the internet to a large branch of a VERY large company who has influence
all over the globe.

That just sounded like a whole lot of sucking up. However, it's true. AE has become something big for 16- gamers around the world.

Anyways, although there are SOME THINGS that could be improved, the game is still moving forward. Perhaps the progress is very slow, but
it's progress nonetheless.

Also, this does sound like another standard issue "moaning thread", as someone above put it. Maybe there are good intentions, but it's not doing
anything besides criticizing the game.



Melissa4Bella -> RE: Epicduel gone backwards. (1/24/2012 18:19:52)

There are some great constructive posts in this thread. Let's keep all input going in this same direction. However, I feel that it is also important to note that if there is a problematic post made, the best course of action is to ignore it and contact an AK or a Moderator and report the problem. This way, the problem can be handled without further incident and the fallout doesn't spread beyond the bounds of the original problem.
You can read more about this in the On Replying to Troublesome Threads/Posts (DON'T!) thread.
Remember, courtesy is not a request, but your worthwhile, constructive and thoughtful opinions are. So let's keep this thread on track with forum maturity and we can keep this thread open. Thanks!



Adam in Wonderland -> RE: Epicduel gone backwards. (1/24/2012 18:33:22)

I'd like to see some long overdue and much needed faction improvements, giving them more purpose, value and fun. Also, the war was handled poorly. Hopefully more well thought out rewards for both the individual and the overall alignment ahead of time would help. So players know what they are fighting for in advance. Finally, the varium abuse features like super war bombs need to be scaled back. That constructive enough for you?



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Epicduel gone backwards. (1/24/2012 19:05:20)

@TTG Sean ive been keeping a close eye on the Gap because i remember beating Founders on my lowly F2P caster build, then being crushed by Comet Jack's STR merc build ah good memories of Beta. Well to say this simply the gap used to be 15 levels now it is down to around 10 levels between the average F2P an Varium gear which is a massive improvement.


@Trans it is not nice to give away secrets like that, you should add spoiler tags so people don't have to know that the new gear isn't always better then the old gear and they can continue living their life as it stands.
spoiler:

Plus if something is marked with spoiler tags people really want to read it.



xxmirxx -> RE: Epicduel gone backwards. (1/24/2012 21:37:24)

I don't think game has gone backwards just change to better the game. TTG Sean no offence but you didn't play game since came out like you weren't here when gamma was out. I do miss beta and little of gamma reason why like gamma easyer npc and faster wins. I like beta because no robots and no agility.



ND Mallet -> RE: Epicduel gone backwards. (1/24/2012 21:47:07)

Alpha was terrible. Mages could one shot anyone by spamming the energy stat. Mercs reduced every attack you could throw at them to 3 damage because of their passive. And BHs passively had increased weapon damage for each and every attack or skill they used their claws for(that includes Massacre). If the game were to get worse from there then we wouldn't be in Delta Phase right now because it would have been dead before Beta got halfway done.



Xendran -> RE: Epicduel gone backwards. (1/24/2012 21:55:46)

In terms of balance:
Gamma > Beta >>>>>> Delta > Alpha

In terms of fun:
Beta >>>> Alpha >>>>> Gamma >>> Delta

In terms of cost
Delta >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gamma >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Beta >> Alpha



Stabilis -> RE: Epicduel gone backwards. (1/24/2012 22:15:41)

Your "graph" is awesome, Xendran. But are you saying that Gamma was most balanced? Beta was most fun? And Delta was most expensive? Just to clarify.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Epicduel gone backwards. (1/24/2012 22:19:44)

quote:

Your "graph" is awesome, Xendran. But are you saying that Gamma was most balanced? Beta was most fun? And Delta was most expensive? Just to clarify.

well
gamma wasn't all that bad balance wise.
the only thing is, beta had the balance where it was fun.
as in, even if balance wasn't the best, it was still more fun then what is today.
to simply put it, beta didn't have balance problems where it gave u so many headaches. (unlike today with current balance)


and as for the terms of cost, well delta isn't over yet, so we cant fully judge it on that.
but gamma and delta are still pretty close together price wise IMO.



Elf Priest JZaanu -> RE: Epicduel gone backwards. (1/24/2012 22:24:36)

I feel the game is going in a positive direction. To me, it feels the staff is filling in the gaps that have provided some of the issues. In regard to cost of the game, I think over time, the game will implement more varied pay features. As of now, the only monies is weapon sales for advantage. I am happy with the direction, and it will continue to improve.




xxmirxx -> RE: Epicduel gone backwards. (1/25/2012 3:02:42)

Also goldslayer1 you didn't have people just copying other people builts heck before class change was best thats when healing lopper came about.



BlueKatz -> RE: Epicduel gone backwards. (1/25/2012 3:16:38)

quote:

Still, now this game seems more as a job then a game.

I somewhat agree with this statement



comicalbike -> RE: Epicduel gone backwards. (1/25/2012 9:28:22)

i agree the game is improving just not so much fun that's all but still early days yet



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