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Drakkoniss -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/25/2012 11:36:40)

While I must admit I cannot be an adequate judge, because I can only hear your side of the arguement, that brother of yours is starting to truly annoy me, with his loathsome antics. -.-

The comment about not liking aiming disturbs me, as well. He needs to understand that if he's going to shoot a gun at all, he needs to aim. Even shotguns require aiming, especially at long range or moving targets. That is what shooting is about. It's not some magical tube that will automatically hit what you want it to. You have to actually learn to point the thing in the right direction for that to happen, and the gun will take over. It's rather simple, really, even if mastery of it is a difficult task.

Your mentioning the iPod reminds me of your saying that your laptop isn't very portable, but it is. lol (oh, the hilarity of that, with laptops being designed to be portable)

/me wants to have semi-automatic versions of assault rifles, later... I don't like the M16/its family, too much (though I must admit the M4 has admirable accuracy), but there are quite a few guns out there that I do. That model's outdated, anyway, and the military recognizes this. They've been wanting to upgrade for quite some time, even if they don't have enough money to change the main service weapons very quickly. (I'd blame aircraft RND and manufacturing/buying for sucking up the military's budget, honestly, along with the armaments thereof, though at least the explosives and things have a good reason for being aquired/needed...) I'm conflicted as to which weapon is actually my favorite, among the others, but I have quite a few candidates. No, I do not have the AK-47 among them; I do have its improved version, however, among them: the AKM (it is actually basically the same weapon, except it is improved overall, and the AK-47 actually has much of its reputation derived from the AKM, which looks virtually the same, and was actually the one being shipped out for other countries to use, if I rememeber correctly). I'd list a few others that I like, but meh...

The pic is broken for me, btw.

The last bit made me laugh. XP




Question Mark? -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/25/2012 11:39:30)

Am I the only person here who is totally opposed to utilizing firearms of any sort?
Seriously, I could never pick one up. There's something about violence in general that really bothers me, but firearms are especially frightening.
I prefer martial arts, to tell the truth, although I take a bunch of classes on fighting with various kinds of medieval melee weaponry.
The only problem is that my fighting, like most of the rest of my skills, is totally non-applicable to the modern world.
If, however, someone tries to jump me with a Khopesh or a Flail, or just tries an unarmed assault, I will be fine.
As long as they don't just run and then shoot me from far away.




monster116 -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/25/2012 11:39:40)

Hey Drakk!!

Can you teach me a thing or two about making stories [:)]

I would be glad to learn from a pro. [:D]




Shadowlord9k -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/25/2012 11:44:09)

Monster: TvTropes. Lots and lots of TvTropes.




monster116 -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/25/2012 11:45:25)

@shadowlord9k : Whats a TvTropes? XD




Shadowlord9k -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/25/2012 11:48:24)

Monster: What's a google?




monster116 -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/25/2012 11:50:32)

@Shadowlord9k : Uhh... www.google.com? o.o seriously dude [&:] I dont get.




Drakkoniss -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/25/2012 11:57:38)

I acknowledge that firearms indeed are dangerous weapons, and not toys to be messed around with, but with the proper handling and regulations, they are an acceptable part of society. Historically, firearms have been extremely useful in the hunting and defense against wild animals, and that has indeed been a large part of how humanity remained the dominant being on the face of the planet. They should not be thought of as taboo monstrous aboninations that should never have been brought into existance whatsoever, as they are just tools. It is the individual person who causes the unfortunate side-effects that have come due to them. Before their widespread useage, there was still murder, theft, war, and many other such horrors that involve firearms as they are and have been.

Before the bow, there was the spear, thrown at a distance to slay the target. Later, and in areas where the materials for either such things were sparse or expensive, the usage of the sling became prevalent.

If it is to be considered a problem, then it must be one that is acknowledged to be impossible to solve. Even if restrictions were put on them to make their useage and carry illegal for private citizens, criminals will still be able to get them.

Regarding violence in general, it is regretable that there is so much ridiculous and stupid occurence of it in this world, but you must acknowledge it has its place in society. We have organizations like the police specifically to prevent the widespread infection of such tendancies in the world, and to protect the common man.

Thusly, I shall say that I find the idiotic and wreckless use of violence and firearms in general to be disgusting, but I know that they have their purpose, so I am not apposed to the idea of them.

...

Oh, perhaps, Qyp. I would hope the rest of the community helps you, too, though, because I will not have time to be commenting on every single thing that you make, nor will I definitely be able to do it shortly after it is posted, but I will try to give you helpful advice.

Oh, and SL9K was telling you to google it.

(I love TvTropes. ^-^ [yes, it DOES help you to understand story crafting and flow better; I warn you, though, it can suck you in, and you may just go mad from the revelation { http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GoMadFromTheRevelation }, as there are thing man was not meant to know... { http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheseAreThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow?from=Main.ThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow }])




monster116 -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/25/2012 11:59:16)

@Drakkoniss : I understand quite well... [:D] oh and thank you I will be expecting that advice.. [&:]

EDIT:
Ohh... Now I get it.. [:)]





Shadowlord9k -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/25/2012 12:02:25)

Monster: It's was only the simplest riddle possible.




monster116 -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/25/2012 12:05:56)

I see.. so I apply this to my stories? [&:] Interesting.. theres so many I'll read em later [:D]

Thank you btw. [;)]




Question Mark? -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/25/2012 12:06:07)

I fully understand your points Drakkoniss, and have taken them into account. Do not make me out to be a misguided pacifist seeking to eliminate all pain and violence from the world without any heed to the consequences. My position was simply that, while firearms are an acceptable part of society, I personally could not see myself utilizing one, unless, of course, it was necessary to ensure my own survival or that of a loved one. In that case, it would obviously be acceptable, and in fact I have taken steps to ensure that I could in fact operate one if needs be.
My remark regarding the middle ages was simply for comedic effect, although the fact that I am more familiar with ancient styles of fighting than modern ones, and that this disparity in experience is vast, is quite true. It is, of course, always safer to do combat from a distance, but I find that it is far less interesting than performing it whilst still within harm's way.
Oh, and to return to the topic at hand, I will be posting my segment of the collaboration sometime either today or tomorrow afternoon, as I am hoping to find an artful fashion by which to present [CLASSIFIED]'s backstory without having to spread it out across multiple posts or else simply skimp upon the details. It will, however, involve goats, cybernetics, and a monastery. It will also contain an element of humor, which I believe will serve as a complement to Clown's posts and lighten the mood of the story overall, which seems so far to be evolving into a tale of misguided religious zeal combined with a mismatched and damaged society. I really do enjoy observing collaborations, as they tend to evolve over time into tales that one could not have anticipated from the start, and one must attempt to keep up with the dynamic and rapidly twisting story if one wants to augment it with one's own writing.
Until another time, my chums!
-Question Mark




megakyle777 -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/25/2012 12:10:21)

I look forwards to your entry Question. Also, it may be needed to cause a reboot of The Death Games Kinz if you are watching. Noone has posted in a month and I want that tale complete.




Drakkoniss -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/25/2012 12:26:34)

Very well, then, monsieur Mark?, I shall keep that in mind. I also agree that the charm of combat in close proximity is much more than that of it at a distance. Much more artistic flair and historic strategy involved and put into it.




Kinzdor -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/25/2012 12:57:27)

Yea I know Kyle. A reboot is a good idea, though I think we should wait until the current collab is over!




Sir Night -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/25/2012 22:00:17)

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I like Swamp's little piece there. You're definitely one of the best writers on this side of the forums lol.


Thank you sir! I'm glad someone liked it.




primalvoldo -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/26/2012 1:50:49)

Agreed, Swamp Crocs one is a very good piece indeed aswell as the rest of his writing [;)]

Wait.....since when did Drakky become Creative and Constructive O.O




megakyle777 -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/26/2012 1:53:56)

SInce today I imagine. Good for him. It's not a large step from there to Archknight you know and we could do with one for when this thread goes out of hand. Mind you, he may not be allowed to participate, I don't know. Either way, congrats on the titles man.




3 Vandoren -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/26/2012 7:24:40)

@Qyp:
You can't just... Go off gallivanting and kill a prehistoric Slob! I ought... I just!... He's like my ancestor...
/ragequit




Zeuzt -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/26/2012 9:04:49)

?
yeah I have guns but to be honest with you
I aim better throwing spears than guns and the only guns I use are shotguns
You could really tell i'm bad at guns

I got stabbed and shot once
so yeah not doing more of those for a while.




Drakkoniss -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/26/2012 10:54:35)

I recieved those titles avout 23 minutes 10 seconds before midnight yesterday (forum time), if I am not mistaken in my reading of the date of the PM Eukara Vox sent me.

@Arachnid: To be fair, Desert Eagles are horrible guns to judge by. They are renowned for their excess recoil and high caliber bullets. Personally, I dislike them quite a bit, though I understand why one would want the larger bullets, I suppose... And also, it does take a while to get used to the sights for such weapons, and make sure you are holding it level enough to not be throwing your shots up or down, when compared to the eye you are looking at them with. Did you close one eye, btw? There are of course different methods of aiming, but much of the time the person closes one eye to prevent the double vision from messing with their view of the target, which must generally be kept in line with the sights. Having both eyes open tends to throw off your ability to see either the sights or the target, though I must admit there are methods to take advantage of keeping both eyes open, as well. There's also the fact that the sights on guns are not always actually keyed in the way one might want them, initially. Most modern weapons have the sights adjustable, so that the person can make it more accurate at different ranges. Because of that, one who doesn't know how to "sight the gun", so to speak, can be thrown off in their aiming, especially if they also don't know how to factor in wind speed and gravity. at a distance, you might want to aim a little high, so the bullet "falls" to where you are actually aiming, and then with regards to left and right, you just sortof keep track of how the bullet initially flies on the previous shots. Snipers are actually extremely skilled in those areas, and have refined techniques so much that they actually need a team of two people in order to opperate properly. One to look through an even more high powered scope, and to keep track of and relay environmental factors (before a shot is even fired, in the case of wind speed, if they are good enough; they try very hard to do this, because of the logical philosophy snipers have urging them to make one shot only needed to be fired for each kill, which allows them to instantly kill someone [after the correct preparations], and leave before anyone has even figured out what direction the shot came from), and one to actually take that information the spotter gives them into account, and aim the weapon properly, while maintaining extreme control over the smallest of movements in the gun, so they don't change their trajectory at all when they are aiming, other than what they want changed. Because of the fact that they generally fire at very large distances, up to and sometimes excluding a mile, the slightest changes can result in the shot being off by many feet, and so that control is extremely important. Snipers are some of the most well-trained people in the entirety of the military, and they may very well be the most difficult to actually become, as the standards are very high.

And that's effectively the reason why it takes practice to be able to accurately fire a gun... though I included other interesting information in there. Shotguns are a bit more complicated (or simple, aiming wise, but more difficult to fully factor in the details for), but still take quite a bit of training to master, especially with regards to reflexes and knowing how to hit a moving target with them, and when the target is at a significant distance. Yes, I know alot about firearms. My cousin David almost certainly knows more (in that particular field of study/research/knowledge), however. lol

Also, what is that talk of a prehistoric Slob about? Qyp's story? I need to read that, soon...

Agh... my leg is numb. T_T




Antithesis -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/26/2012 14:47:46)

Somewhat unrelated. All this talk of guns reminded me of when I went shooting a week or so ago (two weeks maybe, idk) and inspired me to make a weapon.

I suggested it and y'all should go check it out and tell me what you think of it. :D





quote:

I got stabbed and shot once
so yeah not doing more of those for a while.


Lolwut cool story bro you should tell it at parties




Kinzdor -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/26/2012 16:45:10)

@Drak Congrats on the titles!

@Anti Nice, the sound effects were cool, as well! I would so buy that weapon if it went in game!

Also, I will always like bows better then guns! Just personnel pefrence.




Drakkoniss -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/26/2012 18:16:01)

Interesting weapon, Anti, though it's a bit blurry, and isn't quite in the game's style. You admited it needed work, anyway, so meh. Interesting idea.

I like guns better than bows, personally, but I will admit that bows have a certain likeable mistique about them. I certainly like bows better than guns up untill the mid to late 1800s, when the first revolvers were created.

Oh, and thank you, Kinz.




Glais -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/26/2012 18:20:11)

And so I have returned. Anything of interest happen? Though it does seem you guys have made great progress on your Knights of Order story.




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