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LatinLover/Martini -> Keys (5/5/2012 20:19:40)

Hey guys, Latin here with another discussion topic :D.
What is your guys idea and/or opinion about the new key idea implemented? Is it easier for you to understand? Maybe harder?

Here is a sypnopsis of what each one gives you(:

10,000 Artix Points Package (5 Keys):
~Delta Armor
~15,000 Bonus Credits
~Bionic Battlegear and Bio Borg

7,000 Artix Points Package (4 Keys):
~8,000 Bonus Credits

4,000 Artix Points Package (3 Keys):
~Advanced Battlegear
~4,000 Bonus Credits

2,000 Artix Points Package (2 Keys):
~Veteran Battlegear
~2,400 Bonus Credits

1,000 Artix Points Package (1 Key):
~Starter Kit
~1,000 Bonus Credits


I personally love the idea, the only thing I wish that could be implented would be the ability to save keys. Whats your opinion?



Mr. Black OP -> RE: Keys (5/5/2012 20:25:24)

I like it, but it would be nice to get some varium with the credit bonuses.
Delta Knight: 1925 Varium, 14k Credits
So It would be nice to get 1500 Varium with a 15k credit bonus to compensate for the loss of varium by not getting a promo.



Darkoake445 -> RE: Keys (5/5/2012 20:27:18)

I like the idea, however, it would be very unwise to implement a system to allow one to save keys. Some could choose to buy five Starter Kits to get 5 keys and earn a promotional item that is in the 10k package while only spending 5k points, this could lead to abuse.



Mr. Black OP -> RE: Keys (5/5/2012 20:33:42)

^
Buy 5 1,250 Varium Packages for $50. You get:
6,250 Varium, Delta Knight Armor, and 11,000 Credits.

Buy 1 10,000 Varium Package for $50. You get:
10,000 Varium, Delta Knight Armor, and 15,000 Credits

Buy 10 Starter Kits for $50. You get:
5,000 Varium, Both promos (total value of 5025 Varium, 36,500 credits), and 10,000 Credits

A simple solution is have a save keys option which requires you to buy a 1,250 or higher.

Actually I messed up, I forgot to take into account that a 1,250 has 2 keys so it would be a better deal.
Maybe a save keys option that requires 1 key to perform.



Darkoake445 -> RE: Keys (5/5/2012 20:35:43)

@Zman, Yes, they could do that, however this might "trick" some players* into thinking that they are getting a better deal and they want to be fair to all.



*Younger or players from other countries who might not understand.



LatinLover/Martini -> RE: Keys (5/5/2012 20:37:12)

I do like that idea of giving a minimal amount of varium with promo items since its so much money for the Delta armor



My Name is Jake -> RE: Keys (5/5/2012 21:08:48)

I like the idea of keys and I also think they should double the amount of keys per package because of the expensive enhacements.



charwelly -> RE: Keys (5/5/2012 23:14:09)

I don't really get what they are to be honest but looks like a new feature to the game



SouL Prisoner -> RE: Keys (5/6/2012 3:21:35)

I think for 5 keys, getting 15k credits , is seriously not worth it, they should make it 35k credits .



DOOMdeath -> RE: Keys (5/6/2012 6:34:43)

^yap, agree, 15k credits is nothing for 5 keys, because in that case, I would take another promo (more varium, rarity score, and credits saving)




Basicball -> RE: Keys (5/6/2012 6:48:47)

you guys seem to be forgetting that in the previous system, if you already had the promo, you would get nothing. Now, you get 15K Credits, so why can't you just be thankfull and accept them?



Oba -> RE: Keys (5/6/2012 7:13:26)

^ But why did the old system get changed? Back in the days you could sell your promo items (while it still was a promo), and then you got the promos again once you bought the 10, or 7.5k varium package. Why was this change, is there a reason? I'd rather get some "extra" varium and credits from selling my promo instead of just getting 15k extra credits if I purchase the 10k varium pack again under the same promo.
I am abit of tired and dizzy, so my english aint that good this morning! [:-]



Ranloth -> RE: Keys (5/6/2012 7:15:22)

Because before, you could keep buying packages over and over again, get the promo items and sell them for more Credits and Varium. This was stopped by not allowing you to sell items nor get any from the same package, until the promo is over.



Oba -> RE: Keys (5/6/2012 7:22:25)

Yes I see. Yet I dont find it wrong to be able to get a small extra varium bonus if you pay $50 under the same promo, and as I said I'd rather see that again then this system we got now. Im not saying its bad, its much better then it was two weeks ago. But in my eyes it was better back in gamma as the change came in the beginning of Delta :P



midnight santa -> RE: Keys (5/6/2012 7:24:47)

It jus a scheme to get beter varium sales. It is jus fancey pantsy.
Titan, i recomend to u to tink about varium price and enhancement.
In fact, buy of new weapon is not worth it, u pay for weapon and u pay for enhance again.
So, in simple, no more fancy pants keys or wat. Jus tink about comon sense.



Ranloth -> RE: Keys (5/6/2012 7:28:37)

@Oba
Well it ain't a problem for me and you, but if you managed to get a lot of offers (I got a lot of Points in the past, about 30K? xD) and had own money to spend, you could get like 5-10 packages, sell them all and gain on it about 200-300K Credits, and additional 5K Varium (depends on how many items were in promo and how much they sold for). :P That is a lot, and there happened to be much bigger spenders! xD

@midnight
O rly?! Funny enough, now you can get another promo rather than buy same one and not get items - like Basic explained. And it gives you more variety + value at lower purchaces, you can get more Credits or weapons rather than get promo aimed at Lvl 30+ only whilst you're Level 15 for example.
Stop trolling, m'kay? Give your opinion first rather than flame how crap it may be and try to word it out properly, I can barely understand what you mean at times due to your slang.. >.>



midnight santa -> RE: Keys (5/6/2012 7:53:57)

not my problem u canot acomodate my knoweledge...sorry.
maybe if u get mor wins u can understand pros. dont giv up...



Ranloth -> RE: Keys (5/6/2012 7:57:49)

Add my 4 alts and I have more wins than you if you think wins = knowledge. So by same "knowledge", I'm smarter than you. Of course I won't judge people by wins, perhaps we're all equal, so don't put yourself above everyone like you're superior to us in any way.

One question, what do wins have to do with Varium purchase system?



midnight santa -> RE: Keys (5/6/2012 8:02:15)

^i dont wana explain all things to u...sorry, ask others.



Ranloth -> RE: Keys (5/6/2012 8:03:40)

Because you have no evidence, again. Silver Sky Magician explained it nice and clear for you, have a nice day.



Oba -> RE: Keys (5/6/2012 9:13:52)

*Deleted the bad part :3*

To get back on topic though, I think it should be able to save keys! Or be able to sell promos again even while its still a promo [:)]



rej -> RE: Keys (5/6/2012 10:03:02)

quote:

I like it, but it would be nice to get some varium with the credit bonuses.
Delta Knight: 1925 Varium, 14k Credits
So It would be nice to get 1500 Varium with a 15k credit bonus to compensate for the loss of varium by not getting a promo.


Agreed. And this would help those players who decide to buy two or more packages during the same promo (for example, the Delta Set. You could not sell the weapons, so if you wanted to get a second varium package, it would come with nothing but 10,000 var and 15,000 credits.)



Rarest -> RE: Keys (5/6/2012 13:21:52)

I think the keys are a good idea, makes it okay to buy ten k varium twice before a new promo pack comes out. :P



The Game -> RE: Keys (5/6/2012 14:49:51)

Since this doesn't seem like one of those discussions that has a large degree of longevity and thus can stand on it's own as a thread, shifting the discussion back to the DNs topic where this is addressed would be the best course of action.

~Locked



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