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PivotalDisorder -> RE: May 09, 2012 Dn's (5/10/2012 7:30:49)

@Midnight: The Bionic Battalion Saga was a saga. The Infernal Infiltration War is a war. the difference seems pretty clear to me.



thekingofRAGEinaqw -> RE: May 09, 2012 Dn's (5/10/2012 7:38:57)

Thank you so much Epicduel and all the other players for changing the Juggernaut Mode. I already have the Juggernaut Achievement but i would love to continue "Juggering" and have alot of fun and meet good low level players. I think it is not too unfair as they have the advanced battlegear, which is only a few stats worse than the beta gear ( The Advanced Electro SMG gives +8 on both technology and dexterity. It has a damage of (+) 29 and has 9 enhancement slots. While the Beta Blaster gives +9 on both technology and dexterity, has a damage of (+) 30 and has 10 enhancement slots. If you compare them, there is just 1 damage difference, 2/3 (if fully enhanced then 3) stat points difference and the Advanced Electro SMG has a requirement of 30 technology and dexterity. Hardly any difference because most passive skills like Static Charge, Hybrid armour, Mineral Armour, Plasma Armour, Blood Lust, etc. require dexterity or technology anyway.

Well Done everyone



Silver Sky Magician -> RE: May 09, 2012 Dn's (5/10/2012 8:46:57)

2 clarifications:

1. Who is Silas Auer?

2. Does the new bot take out one skill for the entire game? (don't think I've seen any official staff confirming this yet)


If the new bot does take out a random skill for the entire game, I believe this would in fact limit strategy, rewarding builds which can make do without their skills (i.e. most varium builds and strength builds) while punishing builds which rely on superior tactics and timing to use their skills in order to win, and would thus encourage more strength builds. I suggest that the new bot should only temporarily disable a random skill for two turns, and should only be usable once a battle. The tactical advantage its current capabilities award the user and the negative impact of it on the diversification of builds make it a highly controversial, needless and terrible wild card in an already overwhelmingly random game.



Digital X -> RE: May 09, 2012 Dn's (5/10/2012 8:57:37)

@Silver, to quote RabbleFroth on page 1:
quote:

The bot won't remove debuffs or buffs, and it won't affect passive skills. It will only disable your ability to use a random, active skill on your hotbar for the rest of the battle.



Battle Elf -> RE: May 09, 2012 Dn's (5/10/2012 9:06:49)

This bot sounds awesome for me since the only skills I use are
  • Malfunction-Debuff
  • Deadly Aim-Passive
  • Reroute-Passive
  • Heal-Buff
  • Technician and Defense Matrix-Buff

    No one can take those away! MUAHAHAHA!



    • gangster a -> RE: May 09, 2012 Dn's (5/10/2012 9:10:10)

    ^ will be bad news for me ill have to change build i use magic skills ;/



    MirageD -> RE: May 09, 2012 Dn's (5/10/2012 9:56:50)

    i personally don't like the idea of nerfing multi's in 2v2....but we'll see how it goes....i don't understand why the nerf is a good thing?....of course a muti is a good thing in 2v2 ???....why would anyone discourage it in 2v2 mode???.....maybe i just don't understand the logic (or lack there of) in this decision?....hopefully someone that plays 2v2 is testing this hard....are we trying to make 2v2 into another 1v1 mode??



    Striker44 -> RE: May 09, 2012 Dn's (5/10/2012 9:57:58)

    Agree with fact that new bot will encouraging strength builds ;for example think what will do mercs without bunker all game [:o]



    PivotalDisorder -> RE: May 09, 2012 Dn's (5/10/2012 10:09:14)

    @MirageD: the energy cost is being reduced for the multis.

    although I do think we should be able to chose if we use it on both targets or just a single target.



    drinde -> RE: May 09, 2012 Dn's (5/10/2012 10:20:15)

    Aww. I was hoping it could remove Debuffs.

    1. Does the effect stack?

    And as Silver Sky said, it would boost STR Spam, which I just realised.



    gangster a -> RE: May 09, 2012 Dn's (5/10/2012 10:27:02)

    ^ if this bot helps blood mages im going to rant ^^



    Mr. Black OP -> RE: May 09, 2012 Dn's (5/10/2012 10:30:06)

    Can someone answer my previous question?
    I thought of the special a while back and sill have the original post on the suggestion forums. Will I get the bot for free or would I have actually had to design the weapon?



    drinde -> RE: May 09, 2012 Dn's (5/10/2012 10:32:39)

    ^

    I think you only get the weapon if you had designed it. Sorry.



    XxKirachanXx -> RE: May 09, 2012 Dn's (5/10/2012 10:38:07)

    Oh dear, it looks like with this update, my already struggling lv 29 tanky BH jugg that relied on a massive multi to compensate for the disadvantage in the damage department finally kicks the bucket.
    Oh well, the 66% win rate was leaving me with mixed feelings anyway.
    Time to move on and find a new build....somehow ;w;



    SouL Prisoner -> RE: May 09, 2012 Dn's (5/10/2012 10:46:21)

    i don't really like the bot idea, they only make bot that helps the 1v1 battles.....what about 2v2 and mainly juggs , huh?? other then the energy bot, no other bot is good for a jugg, ..



    PivotalDisorder -> RE: May 09, 2012 Dn's (5/10/2012 10:51:43)

    @Soulprisner: Bio Borg wouldn't be good?



    Arcanis -> RE: May 09, 2012 Dn's (5/10/2012 11:08:38)

    @Battleelf: Are you sure field medic is considered a buff?



    midnight santa -> RE: May 09, 2012 Dn's (5/10/2012 11:11:23)

    ^batelf is just inventing stuff...he just try to be mod...



    SouL Prisoner -> RE: May 09, 2012 Dn's (5/10/2012 11:13:13)

    @PivotalDisorder

    Nope, 97% of the battles, in jugg, the opponents have high tech, that is ...attacks are..Bolt(used to be and is still ) multi , super charge , bunker , Merc,multi. Now where do you think bio borg could come in hand??



    Arcanis -> RE: May 09, 2012 Dn's (5/10/2012 11:24:28)

    Midnight,if you consider that field medic actually raises one of stats,health,it isn't totally out of the question devs will consider it as a buff skill, I was just wondering did he saw anywhere that it is viewed like that or he just made an assumption.



    Ranloth -> RE: May 09, 2012 Dn's (5/10/2012 11:26:31)

    @midnight
    He isn't inventing anything but showing that the Bot can do nothing to him, but disable Heal and any skill he might have trained at Lvl 1 but not used it.. Seeking to be a Mod? By posting what he posted? Lolwhut?



    DestruRaGe -> RE: May 09, 2012 Dn's (5/10/2012 11:29:56)

    Aww now I think that it would be better if bot special was just an energy attack.



    Basicball -> RE: May 09, 2012 Dn's (5/10/2012 11:35:26)

    I believe rabble meant that it doesn't take away already activated buffs/debuffs, not that they cant be shut down from use for the rest of the fight.

    I'm not 100% sure though, so please don't take this as an official message, i'll try confirming which one of the 2 it is.



    Rui.. -> RE: =ED= May 9th Design Notes (5/10/2012 12:16:12)

    Mira i think the change in multi is actually a good idea. If used strategically a tact merc can multi twice once being on rage. Moreover the less energy on multi will help jugging cause we can recover from emp and atom smash with the energy boost. Still waiting when they will boost plasma grenade tho. It fails for a tier 4 skill.



    Ranloth -> RE: =ED= May 9th Design Notes (5/10/2012 12:24:20)

    @Rui
    In fact, Venom should be swapped with Plasma Grenade because it makes no sense that CHs have it earlier than BHs, and even lower requirements for same power. Then for Tier 3 skill, it's much better but still could use a small buff along with BH's Grenade. :)



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