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rayniedays56 -> Most hated weapon in ED? (5/16/2012 12:36:05)

The thread is "What is the most hated weapon in ED in your own opinion?"

This can mean the OPness of it, the UPness, the STATS, the overwhelming use of it, or whatever your mind seeks. No flaming, going off topic, or showing general stubborness. I will PM an AK if you ignore these rules ;).

Have fun!
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I personally dislike the Dark Star. It is used by EVERYONE who is a strength abuser. I also hate the Cadens Wrath. Giving +24 to technology is ASKING for a caster abuser ;P



ansh0 -> RE: Most hated weapon in ED? (5/16/2012 12:37:28)

Bionic Battlegear.

Awful memories.



Stabilis -> RE: Most hated weapon in ED? (5/16/2012 12:44:30)

Most weapons from levels 15 and down, they need an artistic redesigning.



PivotalDisorder -> RE: Most hated weapon in ED? (5/16/2012 13:05:04)

Cyber Shillelagh when this launched 2 turn mercs become even more OP, was horrible.



khalidon5000 -> RE: Most hated weapon in ED? (5/16/2012 14:10:30)

^^
Wow stats on wep O_o
Only 32 damage though.

@PivotalDisorder
Sounds depressing.



PivotalDisorder -> RE: Most hated weapon in ED? (5/16/2012 14:15:36)

@khalidon5000: when the weapon was released, Maul-Berzerker builds were rife in 1v1 as it was 2 turn win if they stunned, and sometimes 2 turn win even if they didn't stun.
they did get nerfed not that long after but for awhile it was the weapon I feared seeing in battle the most.



Calogero -> RE: Most hated weapon in ED? (5/16/2012 14:19:17)

Charfade's Club... No need to point out why



rayniedays56 -> RE: Most hated weapon in ED? (5/16/2012 14:27:53)

@ Andy

Charfades Club? :)

WOW amazing stats for it! :) (relatively tanky-ish? LOL)

http://www.epicduelwiki.com/index.php/Charfade%27s_Club


Azraels Curse

http://www.epicduelwiki.com/index.php/Azrael%27s_Curse_(Blades)


No matter what, it always seems to crit me...



SouL Prisoner -> RE: Most hated weapon in ED? (5/16/2012 14:30:57)

Bionic battlegear, the club and staff looks awfull and stats are even worst... Biggest mistake of mine, to buy them. :/



Renegade Reaper -> RE: Most hated weapon in ED? (5/16/2012 16:32:40)

bionic battlegear, all of them look horrible. the eye thing is the worst. not really useful, IMO.



Stabilis -> RE: Most hated weapon in ED? (5/16/2012 16:40:13)

The Bionic Battlegear is the right idea but the wrong stat placement. If it HAD to give Strength, make the secondary stat Dexterity. If it HAD to give Technology, make the secondary stat Support. Technology and Strength do not normally agree. [&:]

Strength is Primary and Sidearm damage while Technology is Resistance and deflections, not amazing synergy there. [:D]



King Helios -> RE: Most hated weapon in ED? (5/16/2012 16:41:22)

Sidearm + Lower Deflection, good for Mages?



King Helios -> RE: Most hated weapon in ED? (5/16/2012 16:45:17)

My most hated weapon is the Martial Great Sword. I did not know that weapons could be that ugly! It also has, in my opinion, bad stats.



Stabilis -> RE: Most hated weapon in ED? (5/16/2012 16:51:13)

@Duel,

You can have 100% Strength, so an absolutely powerful Primary and Sidearm but without accuracy; 100% Technology, so an absolutely impenetrable Resistance and ranged mastery but without offense; 50% Strength and 50% Technology so 50% of what is already mentioned but without any pure mastery in close-combat.

We can never win. [:(]



charwelly -> RE: Most hated weapon in ED? (5/16/2012 16:54:13)

Oh gosh the arazels curse just make the BHs overpowered



goldslayer1 -> RE: Most hated weapon in ED? (5/16/2012 16:59:24)

quote:

Cyber Shillelagh when this launched 2 turn mercs become even more OP, was horrible.

yes, cyber shillelagh did spark more str mercs at the time.

but if u think about it, it had almost no difference in stats to frostbreaker.

Cyber require base support, and frost gave u stat support. (which would end up as the same support)

the only advantage cyber had was 1 stat and the 2% over the frostbreaker. (technically speaking)



PivotalDisorder -> RE: Most hated weapon in ED? (5/16/2012 17:03:26)

@Depressed and others: problem with releasing items with "perfect" stat placement is the community just use them to make
abusive power builds and balance gets wrecked. so yes it would be nice but this issue is entirely the players fault, not the staff.

possibly going off topic?

I also fear Overkill while levelling, it always seems to do so much damage, combined with Smoke Screen.


@Goldslayer1: very true, but nonetheless, I never remember groaning the moment I saw my opponent had Frostbreaker [:D]



goldslayer1 -> RE: Most hated weapon in ED? (5/16/2012 17:09:37)

@piv
well, it made people mentally think that cyber was THE weapon for str merc.

but most weren't smart enough (atleast at the time when it came out) to realize frost breaker was basically the same thing.

EDIT: well except for the fact that frostbreaker also worked for other kinds of builds that weren't str.



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Most hated weapon in ED? (5/16/2012 17:27:14)

Caden's Curse
I was the only negative stat modifier weapon I ever used and it made primary and secondary weapon attacks worthless because of -5 strength



xGreen Warriorx -> RE: Most hated weapon in ED? (5/16/2012 17:58:37)

^ Since when did Caden's Curse decrease strength? I saw a blood mage berzerker with it a few months ago. (Back when they had berzerker)

I really do not like the dark varium blaster, because its the only primary/sidearm weapon in the game thats 35 damage!! You can't just put one of those out and make it limited rare, the people who got to it first get a huge advantage especially with deadly aim. -_-



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Most hated weapon in ED? (5/16/2012 18:03:42)

Ok lets make sure we are talking abotu the same weapon. Curse is the lv 24 version of Wrath.

Now back in beta and possibly a little bit into Gamma weapons could have negative modifiers but they were trashed later because the devs decided it was a bad idea



Arcanis -> RE: Most hated weapon in ED? (5/16/2012 18:09:57)

If I look at it with some objectivity and distance,I would have to say Frostbane.
Not only that weapon was waaaay to powerful for stage of game it was released,but also it started an avalanche of over-the-top-stat-amount in most future weapons.
Don't get me wrong,I adore that sword,but I think it made more harm than good.



Xendran -> RE: Most hated weapon in ED? (5/16/2012 18:11:37)

Azrael



liy010 -> RE: Most hated weapon in ED? (5/16/2012 18:15:49)

quote:

I really do not like the dark varium blaster, because its the only primary/sidearm weapon in the game thats 35 damage!! You can't just put one of those out and make it limited rare, the people who got to it first get a huge advantage especially with deadly aim. -_-


I agree. Just in another way...I just got Dark Varium Blaster as a drop from PvP 2 minutes ago. I use an Energy Primary (Which I am not changing <.< >.>) and an Energy Aux (Eh, I'm waiting...) so this Gun is useless for me...Make a Physical Version >.<

By the way, I'd be happy to sell the broken version to you for 1,500 Credits :3



rej -> RE: Most hated weapon in ED? (5/16/2012 18:36:41)

Stun gun(s). They are as annoying as heck when they work.



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