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edwardvulture -> RE: =ED= July 17th Design Notes - Break on Through to the Other Side (7/20/2012 13:53:01)

Varium weapons for the most part are always bigger if they have a non-var counterpart.




Guppy -> RE: =ED= July 17th Design Notes - Break on Through to the Other Side (7/20/2012 13:57:57)

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Does not clear anything.


The Super forms are always Varium, lol. Common sense isn't so common.




ansh0 -> RE: =ED= July 17th Design Notes - Break on Through to the Other Side (7/20/2012 14:03:30)

I meant the placement of the auxes -.-"

Read my post carefully.




JariTheMighty -> RE: =ED= July 17th Design Notes - Break on Through to the Other Side (7/20/2012 14:36:24)

Yes G00ny, I agree with you there. But if Exile is gonna win the rest of the vaults in this war, I don't see Legion winning any wars after this one. Why? Because it's much easier just to change to the winning side than to take responsibility of the whole Legion player base.

Also, I didn't say (at least not directly) that rewarding the winning side is bad. Rewarding the winning side is a good thing. But the problem is that with this system the losing side will always be the losing side.

Also, another thing that I'm not happy with that winning this war actually means something. I have no idea what Legion players got from winning the Frysteland war :P

But this war isn't over yet so anything can happen, hopefully.




rej -> RE: =ED= July 17th Design Notes - Break on Through to the Other Side (7/20/2012 14:39:02)

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Yes G00ny, I agree with you there. But if Exile is gonna win the rest of the vaults in this war, I don't see Legion winning any wars after this one. Why? Because it's much easier just to change to the winning side than to take responsibility of the whole Legion player base.

Also, I didn't say (at least not directly) that rewarding the winning side is bad. Rewarding the winning side is a good thing. But the problem is that with this system the losing side will always be the losing side.

Also, another thing that I'm not happy with that winning this war actually means something. I have no idea what Legion players got from winning the Frysteland war :P

But this war isn't over yet so anything can happen, hopefully.


It would seem we have come full-circle. Just two weeks ago, everyone was sure that Exile would die because of this war. Now we fear for Legion's survival. Ironic.




Fay Beeee -> RE: =ED= July 17th Design Notes - Break on Through to the Other Side (7/20/2012 14:44:42)

Jari this part of your post.
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Because it's much easier just to change to the winning side than to take responsibility of the whole Legion player base.


Once a player has picked a side and sworn allegiance. Even if they leave the faction they are in, they will only be able to join another one from Legion. So what you suggest is not possible.




JariTheMighty -> RE: =ED= July 17th Design Notes - Break on Through to the Other Side (7/20/2012 14:47:32)

@Fay: Even after this war? Do you mean that if we somebody swore their allegiance to Legion, they are locked in that alignment for ever? I was talking about future wars.

And rej: Yes, ironic indeed.




button33 -> RE: =ED= July 17th Design Notes - Break on Through to the Other Side (7/20/2012 14:50:14)

For the aux, top 2 credits, bottom two Varium. NW posted on twitter




Fay Beeee -> RE: =ED= July 17th Design Notes - Break on Through to the Other Side (7/20/2012 14:50:40)

@ Jari. I have just had this confirmed. It is for the war alone.

Tweeted.
quote:

Nightwraith ‏@Nightwraith_ED
@Nightwraith_ED @OmerTheEpicDuel Sorry, I had it backwards. Top 2 are credits.




ansh0 -> RE: =ED= July 17th Design Notes - Break on Through to the Other Side (7/20/2012 15:08:18)

Aw man, now I hope that the energy one doesn't give support.

STAFF Y U NO MAKE BOTTOM AUXES CREDIT ONLY?!?!WHAI?!?




helloguy -> RE: =ED= July 17th Design Notes - Break on Through to the Other Side (7/20/2012 15:20:30)

patch in 5




Fay Beeee -> RE: =ED= July 17th Design Notes - Break on Through to the Other Side (7/20/2012 15:34:07)

Tweeted

quote:

Titan ‏@Titan_EpicDuel
ED update rolling now! Loads of fun stuff, but you'll have to break down that Vault! Go Go Go!




Chosen 0ne -> RE: =ED= July 17th Design Notes - Break on Through to the Other Side (7/20/2012 15:38:16)

Im unable to login at this time. O_o




helloguy -> RE: =ED= July 17th Design Notes - Break on Through to the Other Side (7/20/2012 15:40:54)

back online




Lord Nub -> RE: =ED= July 17th Design Notes - Break on Through to the Other Side (7/20/2012 16:33:34)

@Goony,

I was not asking for Legion players to be rewarded because I am able to understand the consequences of rewarding a specific side in these events. I was asking where our reward was since they will be rewarding Exile so heavily this war in order to maintain balance for the future which is another thing pushed aside by the developers, moderators, and testers alike as represented by Fay Beees response to Jari,

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Once a player has picked a side and sworn allegiance. Even if they leave the faction they are in, they will only be able to join another one from Legion. So what you suggest is not possible.


He responded,
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@Fay: Even after this war? Do you mean that if we somebody swore their allegiance to Legion, they are locked in that alignment for ever? I was talking about future wars.


Now, the problem here is the future. I have been fighting this while not being banned from these childish forums at every chance I get because it is wrong and VERY BAD for this game.

Active Legion players are being screwed over because in the future after everything is said and done, the reward system WILL change i guarantee it because it's an obvious mistake. Then the damage is done and all the Exile players get all these great things the other players can't get just because they have a more active player base?

You imply that everything will be fine and dandy because the Player base and activity was so different in the past favoring Legion so heavily but what was the reward back then? A WD for one faction per day?

These are mass rewards for all in one alignment and this will have a huge impact. End the alignment specific rewards now before more damage is done while we are even.




DeathGuard -> RE: =ED= July 17th Design Notes - Break on Through to the Other Side (7/20/2012 16:45:08)

Does anyone knows the stats for varium and nonvarium energy auxes?




shadesofblue -> RE: =ED= July 17th Design Notes - Break on Through to the Other Side (7/20/2012 16:48:29)

^Varium: 4 STR 6 TECH 6 SUPP
NonVarium: 3 STR 5 TECH 5 SUPP




Cookielord12 -> RE: =ED= July 17th Design Notes - Break on Through to the Other Side (7/20/2012 16:50:08)

^Where did you find this?




DeathGuard -> RE: =ED= July 17th Design Notes - Break on Through to the Other Side (7/20/2012 16:50:33)

Dam, why it has strength? :/ Btw you know the requirements?




shadesofblue -> RE: =ED= July 17th Design Notes - Break on Through to the Other Side (7/20/2012 16:51:23)

^Finderbot didn't say.

EDIT: Both have 39 damage :P




Chosen 0ne -> RE: =ED= July 17th Design Notes - Break on Through to the Other Side (7/20/2012 16:51:49)

Finderbot is your friend.




Cookielord12 -> RE: =ED= July 17th Design Notes - Break on Through to the Other Side (7/20/2012 16:52:15)

Oh, never knew about that.




Ranloth -> RE: =ED= July 17th Design Notes - Break on Through to the Other Side (7/20/2012 16:54:29)

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the reward system WILL change i guarantee it because it's an obvious mistake

Oh you know about unknown changes in ED? Tell me about how you know it before the Devs themselves. :)




Chosen 0ne -> RE: =ED= July 17th Design Notes - Break on Through to the Other Side (7/20/2012 16:55:59)

@Trans, I made it for you.
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/23747748.jpg




Cookielord12 -> RE: =ED= July 17th Design Notes - Break on Through to the Other Side (7/20/2012 16:56:19)

Tech auxes with a little str. Nice!

Vault Cracker 25k? Awesome as well! I'm on 24621 which is quite good as I'm not hardcore and only started at the end of vault 1

edit: just realised that I have carrotic collider which has better stats :)




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