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masterspider78 -> Special Acheivment for non-varium wins (not players) (9/2/2012 19:11:50)

alright, so vairum gives you a distinct advantage against big npc battles (like caden, nightwraith, titan etc) but not a lot of people recognize how difficult it is to beat these guys without varium items. When I was a level 32 tech mage, I had top-tier non-varium gear so I made a build to beat slayer on the first day, the build was average and I thought it was enough to beat him, I was talking to some varium guys and they said that I was a noob, and that 'nightwraith, titan and caiden would kill me, slayer was gonna destroy me' they even said that varium is what makes you good, not my crappy gear. It hurt me a lot but then I remembered this guy name B9000, he became the greatest non-varium tech mage and was the first to beat big-tuna (the day she came out) while being non-varium. This guy gave me confidence to continue on with my battle. The next few minutes of the release, I was the first non-varium player to beat slayer (some mod confirmed it to me) and I was proud, and the people that shunned me actually didn't beat slayer that day and took them numerous tries. Even though they still shunned me, (many called me a lucky noob). After a few months, I was able to beat caden, titan and nightwraith and those people who despised me were shocked, but still didn't accept me or even accepted my freindship to them, but I was still happy. In fact after a few more months, I was able to beat big-tuna. So with that story in mined, I was wondering if the achievement for beating npc's like this would reward every player who beat them and were not wearing any varium gear to get a special achievement to prove there hard work and skill to do this. Reply and let me know.




Mr. Black OP -> RE: Special Acheivment for non-varium wins (not players) (9/2/2012 19:55:08)

Not supported.
Varium players would still have an advantage because of enhancements. It won't prove anything.




Mother1 -> RE: Special Acheivment for non-varium wins (not players) (9/2/2012 19:57:14)

Ok don't listen to those fools not all Varium players are idiots like them. Besides if what you said is true then I actually salute you for doing this and for them to still call you a noob after you did something they couldn't without varium it sounds like they are jealous and don't want to give you credit where credits is do. However I have to ask you have you ever beaten George Lowe yet? I didn't see his name in the bunch and he does award an achievement for being him as well.

However on the grounds of getting award for it doing this I can't support it. While it is great you are the first person to do this without varium, it isn't like those who did it with Varium didn't have to plan how they would do it. Back when I was fighting them myself even with Varium they would kick by butt, and I a tech mage when I beat my first three NPC (Hank, overlord guard and Slayer) The rest I had to change to CH to beat, and even then I had to plan how I would beat them since unlike now I don't OP them. So while it is cool you did beat them without varium I can't support an award for it since I had to work hard as well to beat them when I doing it and I used Varium items to help me.




One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Special Acheivment for non-varium wins (not players) (9/2/2012 20:07:51)

Yeah it is a hard thing to do but the fact that you are a F2P and they see those cheevo's on your page is bragging rights alone. I mean I used to get smart comments when people saw George Lowe's cheevo on my list but people know that some NPC's are hard for them with full Var gear so when they see a F2P with it they either feel foolish, ego blow, or they give you props. Getting props from a Varium user is a reward they cannot get because it doesn't mean as much




AqworldThunder -> RE: Special Acheivment for non-varium wins (not players) (9/2/2012 20:20:27)

Yeah, it would be a little hard to implent this into the game. I'm a varium player and I don't bash on free players, they usually bash on me for supporting the game. Go figure.




shadesofblue -> RE: Special Acheivment for non-varium wins (not players) (9/2/2012 20:22:34)

ED is a strange place; You can report people for saying "noob" and get them chatlocked, but "noob" isn't chat filtered. Where's the logic on this one?




friend18 -> RE: Special Acheivment for non-varium wins (not players) (9/3/2012 20:16:52)

Mother1, I beat the majority of the NPCs, while I was still a non-varium.

Also, for the part about winning with non-varium gear, a varium player could just enhance the non-varium gear and still win :/ Another reason why this wouldn't work is that a unique achievement like this would be difficult to implement.




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