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King FrostLich -> 1 point ----> 1 varium. (9/9/2012 7:16:42)

If you know what I mean, this is for helping out people who live far away(not from the U.S, U.K or Australia) that aren't able to have offers in portal.battleon.com. It simply converts 1 artix point to 1 varium. However, in order to prevent people from abusing this feature you are not allowed to get any of the free promos/extra rewards when buying from the "Buy Varium" Shop.

For example:

Today's promo, anyone getting the 10k package will receive 10k varium, credits, the Dragon Buster II and some other goodies.
Player has 10k artix points
For some strange reason, he decides to use the 1 point ---> 1 varium method
He spends 10k of the points and then receives 10,000 varium ONLY.


In this case, the only reason why it should be implemented is to help and at least support some people from getting very limited offers. Countries like Philippines, Mexico, China etc. don't have a ton of these offers and for young people who can't get their hands on credit cards. Like I said this is only intended to get varium in VERY small amounts therefore getting 10k out of this method only gives you 10,000 varium without the extra "condiments".




Lord Loss... -> RE: 1 point ----> 1 varium. (9/9/2012 8:45:26)

I support this idea, because I barely get any offers and sometimes I have some battleonpoints left over, although never enough to buy packages. This would allow me to get rid of all the piled uo battleonpoints which are useless in any other way.




Cookielord12 -> RE: 1 point ----> 1 varium. (9/9/2012 9:30:07)

Supported. I hate the fact that there is no 500 varium package.

Also I could get 4k varium for 4k points which is far more useful than keys.




ansh0 -> RE: 1 point ----> 1 varium. (9/9/2012 9:44:45)

No reason not to support this, I would then actually do the *offers* available here.




midnight assassin -> RE: 1 point ----> 1 varium. (9/9/2012 9:46:49)

I have to support this the fact that most offers are only available from the players in USA or in Europe. The offers makes me feel like I'm from Narnia.




Shadow Slayer 2 -> RE: 1 point ----> 1 varium. (9/9/2012 14:09:25)

Supported.. Even though i get quite a lot of offers.. there are countries that have hardly any offers.




Mother1 -> RE: 1 point ----> 1 varium. (9/9/2012 15:58:31)

Not supported. While this works nicely to prevent abuse at the higher up packages it can be abused easily in the lower levels. Plus those people who can get a lot of offers would just gather up points and use it to get 2000+ varium easy. Plus most won't care about the credits that would come with these packages since most of the amounts they offer with them can be easily obtained.

Next this would also cut into the sells of varium from those who have access to credit cards. I know if I could convert all my points into varium whenever I wanted I wouldn't have to need to buy it ever again which is something anyone with business sense wouldn't do.




Blaze The Aion Ender -> RE: 1 point ----> 1 varium. (9/9/2012 18:17:36)

Not supported
See mother1's reasons




King FrostLich -> RE: 1 point ----> 1 varium. (9/10/2012 4:50:47)

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Plus those people who can get a lot of offers would just gather up points and use it to get 2000+ varium easy. Plus most won't care about the credits that would come with these packages since most of the amounts they offer with them can be easily obtained.

Next this would also cut into the sells of varium from those who have access to credit cards. I know if I could convert all my points into varium whenever I wanted I wouldn't have to need to buy it ever again which is something anyone with business sense wouldn't do.


When getting one of the packages, you receive free credits and other extra rewards for purchasing or buying a package. Converting just simply means turning in one point to one varium which is quite obvious. If you have 995 points, you can convert it to 995 varium which is good for one varium weapon but fully enhancing it will need credits. This is also meant for people who don't have these offers. Sure, players in the U.S and the U.K can also do this but they won't benefit much than the packages do offer.

Also note that this is not going to replace the package system as EpicDuel has. This is just an extra optional method via getting varium by means of cheap points plus you do know the fact that ED has expensive goods. 995 varium is already $8 which is even by far more expensive than buying alot of food I want to buy.




Mother1 -> RE: 1 point ----> 1 varium. (9/10/2012 4:58:29)

King frostlich it would still cut into scales of varium since Varium would be so much easier to get. Also Varium would also lose it's value since anyone would be able to get it anytime they wanted. The way it is now it is truly as they say earning your varium. Put it the way you have it and you might as well say it is one step short of giving it away. Next thing you know everyone will be fully powered Varium players, and the game will literally be for everyone power up or die. Still not supported.




Drianx -> RE: 1 point ----> 1 varium. (9/10/2012 5:00:50)

Supported.
I always end up having left hundreds of useless points.
@mother1: i find it amusing how you cannot see the forest because of the trees.
Varium really matters if you have at least 5k; if not, then it doesn't. And right now whoever gathers enough artix points for a 5k he can buy the 5k pack anyway. Frosty's suggestion was meant to help those who have about less than 1k points. it's over my head how you can see everyone getting full varium power from exchanging 1 point to 1 varium lol.
And do not forget that either you gain 1 artix point from offers or by buying it yourself, AE still gets money for it. This suggestion will further encourage people to farm offers -> more money for AE. Because those who can afford one-shot 10k packs they will buy them anyway, unaffected by this 1-1 exchange.




XapApp -> RE: 1 point ----> 1 varium. (9/10/2012 7:53:26)

quote:

I hate the fact that there is no 500 Varium package.

There is a 500 Varium Package as you can see here.




Mother1 -> RE: 1 point ----> 1 varium. (9/10/2012 8:14:28)

Drianx That is the point I was trying to make. Let's take a look at the varium packages

1000 points = 500 varium 1000 credits
2000 points = 1250 varium 2200 credits
4000 points = 2500 varium 4500 credits
7000 points = 5000 varium 8000 credits
10000 points= 10000 varium 15000 credits

While at the top level it would be worth it to farm 10000 points for the points to only varium exchange since you would gain more for the 10K package every other level would give you far more varium through the point exchange for varium instead of packages. Plus at the lowest level the point exchange would give you twice as much varium then the original 1K package. Plus I was talking about those who can farm offers easily not those who can't. Those people would milk this idea even harder then anyone else since they can farm offers easily and as I stated before I would never buy another varium package since it would be even easier to do it this way and the credits I can just earn through fighting.

Also as I said before this would also make the varium lose a lot of value because anyone would be able to get varium anytime they wanted just by farming a small amount of points and getting items. The game would soon become farm varium or die. So I still can't support this no matter how much you think it would be a good idea.




King FrostLich -> RE: 1 point ----> 1 varium. (9/10/2012 8:36:22)

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Next thing you know everyone will be fully powered Varium players, and the game will literally be for everyone power up or die.


Lol'ed at this point. Do you think 1000 points = 1000 varium gonna make the every player overpowered. That can't even buy a load of varium weapons. Considering the fact that most people always and always change hairstyle and color still let's them lose the varium. Plus, I have no offers in my country left since I emptied them up. You expect me to use a credit card? Nope. And do you even realize that the average person can't even get 10k points in a day. It would take 2 weeks or if not a credit card.

quote:

1000 points = 500 varium 1000 credits
2000 points = 1250 varium 2200 credits
4000 points = 2500 varium 4500 credits
7000 points = 5000 varium 8000 credits
10000 points= 10000 varium 15000 credits

While at the top level it would be worth it to farm 10000 points for the points to only varium exchange since you would gain more for the 10K package every other level would give you far more varium through the point exchange for varium instead of packages. Plus at the lowest level the point exchange would give you twice as much varium then the original 1K package. Plus I was talking about those who can farm offers easily not those who can't. Those people would milk this idea even harder then anyone else since they can farm offers easily and as I stated before I would never buy another varium package since it would be even easier to do it this way and the credits I can just earn through fighting.


Via packaging, you receive those stuff including keys that will let you choose what other offers you want. In the 1 point ---> 1 varium method, it's literally 10k varium and nothing more. How can that be a farm varium or die situation. The average ED player base we have are not even smart and rely on so many people to make builds.




Drianx -> RE: 1 point ----> 1 varium. (9/10/2012 8:57:42)

@mother1

OK I see where you're coming from now. Therefore I think the fair deal according to the lowest package ratio would be to do 2 points -> 1 varium.




Lord Loss... -> RE: 1 point ----> 1 varium. (9/10/2012 9:20:05)

Mother 1. you are being irrational. This is a great idea. I have over 800 points leftover from previous varium purchases, and they are just staying there on portal site, collecting dust, as I am unable to use them at all. Also you speak as if collecting those artix points from offers is easy. well the free offers don't really give you much point, and if you can manage to do the payment offers, than why not buy varium straight on. The free offers would take at least a month to gather up artix points for enough varium. And not to mention via packages you get keys and with this system you would get nothing. let me give you an example.

With 4k points I bought 2500 var and got 4500 creds. aside from that the keys allowed me to buy either another 4500 cred pack, or the pyro fly promo which sells for 4250 creds + 285 var. so the keys reallly help when you buy packages. This system would allow you to use low amounts of artix points freely, and the packs would remain with all of it's advantages.
And really, are you trying to tell me that you would rather spend a month collecting 1k points and getting 1k var over and over again, when you can freely purchase var with a credit card?




Mother1 -> RE: 1 point ----> 1 varium. (9/10/2012 9:33:07)

Ok what does varium give players besides items? Enhancements that is what. and with 1000 varium you will have enough to power up almost 2 non varium items fully depending on the items even at the highest levels. 1000 varium can fully enhance one 6 slot item, and one 4 slot item and more non varium items have a max of 6 slots with the exceptions of a few level 35 weapons. Even the highest level of non varium armor has only 6 slots.

With this everyone would be able to power up real easy and while it would make non variums be able to compete better with variums by some margin, it would hurt those who don't power up. Hence my reason of saying it would be power up or die.




Lord Loss... -> RE: 1 point ----> 1 varium. (9/10/2012 9:41:20)

The game is already power up or die. In fact it's power up every month or die, varium is everything and if it gives non variums a fighting chance then I say you just made this idea better for me. I was a non var mage back in gamma and beating fully powered variums used to be not such a huge problem back then, now it's extremely rare to find a non varium who can put up a decent fight. Again if this makes non variums gaming experience better, than I say bring it on. P.S. with 1k points you can already buy 500 varium, 1k creds and a beginners pack which can be sold for a few creds and few var, and 500 var is already enough for 5 slots. Like you said max is usually 6 slots so again, whats the big problem.




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