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kingpowerlord -> ED Strength builds! (10/21/2012 13:53:03)

what is the reason that strength builds beat most other builds, why are they so strong but require no skill?

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Mother1 -> RE: ED Strength builds! (10/21/2012 14:34:07)

The answer is because just about every single melee attack works with strength. Plus when you add the side arm and the way skills that work with strength scale as opposed to others you can see that str plus the scaling equals OP.



8x -> RE: ED Strength builds! (10/21/2012 15:38:27)

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what is the reason that strength builds beat most other builds, why are they so strong but require no skill?

They beat most other builds because strength builds keep dealing damage and can usually deal more damage then opponents can heal. And by having high hp they can afford to have less defenses. Also in some cases if you actually use your skills and not the usual "no skill strategy" you can end up winning the battles where you would have lost without skills.



Metallico -> RE: ED Strength builds! (10/24/2012 19:20:57)

Well a wakness of that builds is that when they strike you with a -35 intimidate for example you have not more chances to attack, that s why i think a focus mercenary or blood mage with intimidate can be a good enemy



ND Mallet -> RE: ED Strength builds! (10/24/2012 21:06:19)

2 options the way I see it to handle strength builds.
1. Lower the strength progression some more
2. Add the Recoil/Ricochet suggestion to guns/aux to prevent strength builds from having a pretty reliable source of damage(gun).



midnight assassin -> RE: ED Strength builds! (10/24/2012 22:03:18)

What if Gun will be independent I mean it must stop relying on str. What if they add something like this
Hp
Ep
Str
Dex
Tech
Supp
Aim

OR

What if the gun damage with the combination of support and str. I mean just like focus but only with str and support?




Mother1 -> RE: ED Strength builds! (10/24/2012 22:39:26)

@ Midnight assassin

It shouldn't have anything to do with str at all. If anything the sidearms should be with either tech (since it is a machine made from tech) or Support since it is a support items. In fact if they move the sidearm away from strength completely and put it to support it would buffing support, and nerfing strength at the same time. Though Deadly aim would have to have a different requirement maybe scale it the same way it is now but instead give it a tech or str stat.

@ ND Mallet

Aux's work with support and by adding that effect to the aux you would be also nerfing support which already has been given a strong nerf. It doesn't need another one.



ND Mallet -> RE: ED Strength builds! (10/24/2012 23:39:25)

@mother The Recoil/Ricochet suggestion was that support increased your chances of having the enemy hurt themselves some with the gun and aux attacks. Giving guns to support would OP the TM class because Aux+Gun+Malf+DA.



kingpowerlord -> RE: ED Strength builds! (10/28/2012 16:25:58)

one of the main problems is that they keep promoting strength builds with new equipment. i mean whhy does an armor give strength anyway?



Mother1 -> RE: ED Strength builds! (10/28/2012 16:45:37)

@ Kingpowerlord

I can agree with this one. The ebil hazard armor give 10 str with 0 dex 4 tech and 6 support. Seriously? This isn't all. The Platinum pride, and the boomsticks have str towering over the rest as well. At least with the dragon con armor all the stats were balanced But seriously they should have made the armor drop 0 str 8 dex 8 tech, and 4 support. They need to stop sending out this insane str items.



l Chop Suey l -> RE: ED Strength builds! (10/28/2012 18:14:21)

I agree with mother1 with str build as the only chance of winning battles,I don't see people winning with different variations of Dex,Tec, or supp builds as str as the superpower now is plain ridiculous.




Drianx -> RE: ED Strength builds! (10/30/2012 3:26:23)

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what is the reason that strength builds beat most other builds

There are only a few builds in all ED: strength, support, tank and 5 focus, random.
Strength does not constantly beat most of these, in fact it gets beaten by tank tech mages, support tech mages, 5 focus BMs.

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why are they so strong

See above.

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but require no skill?

This is a false issue, since it is so easy copying a build and skill pattern or asking for some.



laguna blade -> RE: ED Strength builds! (10/30/2012 10:46:56)

I think srt build powerful coz of add with base wep dmg. Higher lvl more powerful str build coz higher base dmg wep. Variation of skill tree will become low n less fun.So wat I think is this game should stop raise lvl cap so there is no lvl 36+. What do guys think?



Metallico -> RE: ED Strength builds! (11/3/2012 0:55:32)

you are right, strenght needs to be nerfed because actually the builds are so boring and monotone, atleast in gamma phase there were too much builds flexibility for each stat and class



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