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ninjatom -> Tournaments (10/21/2012 20:56:06)

Well, there was a hint in the design notes that tournaments might finally be available to make in EpicDuel. How would you have Tournaments work if you were the devs?



Mother1 -> RE: Tournaments (10/21/2012 22:01:33)

For starters people with enhancements fully power would battle other people with enhancements fully powered. The same would go with people who don't have any, halfway enhanced etc. Also there would be no level gaps like they do with one vs one, two vs two, and juggernaut.

I would everyone on equal footing, and no one player would have an advantage over the other stat and level wise but build would be another story. Also the winner would win a tournament cheevo worth 3,000 rating points but this is just me.



veneeria -> RE: Tournaments (10/21/2012 23:29:20)

↑ what that fine gentleman said. However, it was not a promise, just an objective. Speculating a bit, maybe faction vs faction might work alike tournaments.



DoomBlitz -> RE: Tournaments (10/21/2012 23:42:41)

Or SCALE all the players. e.g. Tourny Build, Tourny preset equips



f4tal1tY -> RE: Tournaments (10/22/2012 0:02:40)

imo, the tournaments would work like everything Mother1 said. Tournaments would be every hour, where a faction sends 8 players into the tournament, against another faction, and just battle :P. The tournament wouldn't give any cheevos, although it would grant an extra 500 influence for winning the tournament.



xGreen Warriorx -> RE: Tournaments (10/22/2012 7:23:51)

^ Idk about your faction, but mine never has 8 players on at once. 5 at once is the most I've seen.

I think the lvl range between players on a tournament should be at least 2 otherwise it will take forever waiting for it to get enough players. There should be a queue like with AQW Bludrut brawls, because it sounds like there's going to be 10 + players in these things.



King Helios -> RE: Tournaments (10/22/2012 8:04:10)

^ We've had 7 on I believe.

On-Topic - Supported veneerias (and m1s)



Unknown Menace -> RE: Tournaments (10/22/2012 9:19:30)

I always imagined it like you enter by yourself (not with faction) it will be held once a day (not every hour) and the winner will be rewarded with a achievment.
Just like rl tournaments you have rounds and the further you proceed the less fights you have to do each round. Round 1 30 battles , round 2 25 battles , round 3 20 battles etc. And inbetween rounds a 30 minute break.

You know what would be nice. A way to view the battles, like if someone you know is entering and made it to the final you can watch the battle. Anyone can.

@king
I can already picture it. Sitting in the infernal apartment and watching the fights all day, or maybe put a screen somewhere in valestra's lounge so everybody can watch together. Man, if only this became reality :)



King Helios -> RE: Tournaments (10/22/2012 9:20:29)

^ There should be a TV you can buy for your house. Live viewing of random tournament battles.



8x -> RE: Tournaments (10/22/2012 9:49:17)

I kinda hope that devs don't create tournaments, since the game isn't that much about skill anymore it would only bring unfairness and flaming.



Pinkie Pie -> RE: Tournaments (10/22/2012 9:49:21)

^
Or just a large television in the middle of central station or maybe in the Lawman's suite since it has no actual use anymore.



Mother1 -> RE: Tournaments (10/22/2012 10:19:55)

@ 8x

You do have a point. Even if they were to put in all my conditions it would still be the most OP builds that would win and other builds that are balanced would never win if they faced these OP builds.



drinde -> RE: Tournaments (10/22/2012 10:24:31)

What if the game randomly selects an online player's current stats, items and skill tree and assigns the build of that player to a challenger of the tournament?

It would be less of getting the OP build and smash away and more of make do with what you got.



Stabilis -> RE: Tournaments (10/22/2012 11:30:45)

If tournaments are to be implemented then many forms of different tournaments may help. For instance, 1 tournament may offer prizes based on end brackets (brackets are your position in the tournament, so depending on how many wins the player achieves in the tournament determines the volume of their prize). An option for a sports tournament (tournament offering no prizes), as well. Some forms of handling these tournaments would be with the option to group players by specified conditions. Such as, a tournament for only the Mercenary-class. Tournaments will not be balanced absolutely. In some cases an advantage whether it be luck, smarts, or handicap will decide the position of players in the tournament. Preferably by smarts. EpicDuel, for legitimate tournaments, requires the game to evolve past stage 9 in which random luck mainly stems from the first turn and the choices that the user makes instead of 1/10 or 1/2 chance that a player will win by random critical strikes.

Tournaments are to test skills, until balance is along the lines of players using their wittiness to win, tournaments are not an implementation of choice.

That said, the idea is still great, and I welcome it when it arrives.



Lord Nub -> RE: Tournaments (10/22/2012 12:16:40)

I would like to see bracket tournaments and not something where the players with the physical handicaps or less responsibilities in real life is guaranteed to win because they get more wins in 24 hours.

Tournaments are set to start at a certain time and losers knocked out accordingly. If unavailable at said time, they lose. Also, entry requirements which may be used to give prizes for the top three players or so.

Tournaments need to be a paying player only feature. Those who do not, may participate but will have no "scaling" or any of that nonsense. Besides, many non-varium weapons are just as good as varium and many are even better than a majority of varium weapons out there. If you can't support the game, you don't get the extra features of it. As of now, varium players have 0, nadda extra features. We lost our bot feature ages ago and now a credit only bot is the best in game?

2v2 tournys could also be exciting using brackets and may show why a new mode starting a 2v2 match would be an awesome addition.

Looking forward to seeing how they pull this off. I really hope they don't keep with the, who can click for a longer duration element this game has been doing for so long.



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Tournaments (10/22/2012 18:55:13)

@Nub I half agree with you.

Varium users should get to test Tournaments first maybe put an item in game and with all key packages that varium players can grab to do tournaments unlimited for two months, three months, however long it takes to work out all the bugs in tournaments.
After every tournament first second and third place should get a prize, maybe a gun aux or a primary meant for their class, and all tiers should get a corresponding credit prize.

Now once all the bugs are worked out the people who helped test it get free tests for life because they had to use money to test them. But we should have two different tournaments one that gives prizes and is for Varium users, or those with enough varium to afford a pass to the tournament(I'm thinking around the price of a booster or less), can do the aforementioned tournament but Free players can do a tournament that offers no weapon prizes and the credit scaling is lower.

This would even out some of the tournaments bias because the F2P's would flock to one type and Varium users would go for the prize offered in their tournament and the better rewards.



ninjatom -> RE: Tournaments (10/22/2012 19:30:02)

quote:

There should be a TV you can buy for your house. Live viewing of random tournament battles.


Awesome Idea! And then you could invite your friends who don't have houses to your house and you can have a tournament watching event!




Rayman -> RE: Tournaments (10/22/2012 20:16:25)

quote:

There should be a TV you can buy for your house. Live viewing the finals only of random tournament battles.

Fixed



King Helios -> RE: Tournaments (10/22/2012 20:24:20)

quote:

There should be a TV you can buy for your house. Live viewing the semifinals and finals only of random tournament battles.


That's good.



doomturtle -> RE: Tournaments (10/23/2012 8:40:15)

I would have it so there are set weapons and you get better weapons as you win. 1 win gets you 5 points, winning the whole tournament gets you 100 points and weapons would cost points. You would verse people within 2 levels above and below you. And the only thing that will be different is your build and sometimes weapon



ND Mallet -> RE: Tournaments (10/23/2012 8:41:53)

I like the idea of a tournament set build and weapons. The only thing that would be different would be class of course. I think it would be more strategical to have a build given to you and then having you learn how to use it properly to win.



doomturtle -> RE: Tournaments (10/23/2012 19:32:54)

Nd the problem with a random build given to you is you might get a build that is just horrible and your opponent might get an op build and no matter how much better you are you lose



ND Mallet -> RE: Tournaments (10/23/2012 21:22:45)

@doom The build is not random and everyone would have the same one, pending differences between classes.



Metallico -> RE: Tournaments (10/23/2012 22:13:44)

i like this kind of competitions



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