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Lord Loss... -> A use for tokens (10/24/2012 17:08:43)

So I had brought this idea up a few months ago and though people showed interest, it was still not implemented. However the problem with the tokens still remain, so I think it's time I brought it up again. Tokens in game had several different uses before. 1: They were used for getting achievements. 2: They were used to win credits, bots, bikes and houses in arcade. 3: They were used on flags to get influence. So far they completely removed arcade so no tokens needed there. Tokens are still required for achievements, but as time passes I noticed that more and more achievements become available via mission completion instead of token purchase. In fact once you collected all the non rare achievements you have to wait months before the seasonal ones come and if you have them, then pretty much no use for tokens there either. Ever since the new influence system was implemented in ED the flags lost most of their use as well. A faction has to spend 100 tokens an hour to get the same amount of influence as just 1 member can give to it with no more than 30 wins in 1vs1, thats an hourly npc farm +15 random battles.

Tokens are not Varium, they like credits are earned, and gathering tokens is sometimes even harder than gathering credits. Why should they not have a sufficient use in ED. I want token donations to be revived. I think that token donations should improve factions score directly, as well as your own personal influence in faction. Everybody fights in EpicDuel, it's a PVP game after all but only the most loyal members of factions are willing to donate large amounts of tokens and that should be rewarded. I understand that there are some people who don't want to be in factions , so to not give players that are loyal to a single faction too big of an advantage, I suggest that we do the same thing to donations as what was done to warkills. Warkills affect your influence in faction only by 35% and your personal influence by 100%. I think token donations should affect your influence in faction by 100% and your personal influence by 35%. It's simple, it's fair and it gives tokens a purpose and might revive flag wars and thats fun.



ReinXI -> RE: A use for tokens (10/24/2012 17:21:47)

your idea seems good.. but why make it to where tokens only help people in factions?

why don't they just add in a slot machine? make it x amount of tokens ( your bet ) and say there are the different symbols

IV IV IV ( same as 7 7 7 ) bet x100 credits like .5% chance
slayer head x3 bet x50 credits 2.5% chance
Mirv head x3 bet x25 credits 5% chance
junker bot head x3 bet x1 credits 22% chance

anything else = 0 return

have the bets in 5, 25, 50, 100 token bets so the max someone could ever win is 10000 credits and that's .5% chance...
plus since its using currency you find IN game there's really no downside if you lose



Lord Loss... -> RE: A use for tokens (10/24/2012 18:10:03)

I said that tokens would not add enough to your personal influence to be unfair to players without factions and I do not want ED to turn into a Casino where you can play black jack and poker. I have donated over 30 000 tokens to my faction and all those donations are rendered useless, because of the influence overhaul. That's the main problem. The flags are dying, yesterday I saw a flag with no more than 14k tokens on it. This would not only revive the flag wars, but reward players who have been loyal to their factions, and loyalty to factions has always been an issue in ED as people complained about switching factions and alignments too often. Not to mention what you suggested is basically the old arcade, but you do not have to battle for your prize and the prizes are less impressive.



Fghuy9 -> RE: A use for tokens (10/24/2012 19:44:03)

Supported. Or maybe they could just put back the arcade, that was pretty fun. I just want something else for tokens, I really almost don't care what it is.

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Mother1 -> RE: A use for tokens (10/24/2012 19:54:54)

@ lord loss

I actually seen flags with even less. Before someone pumped tokens into it I saw a flag with 12K token on it, and with the amount of tokens I have now If I were to make a faction I could have stolen it easy by myself which is a shame. I remember when the flags at the lowest had 32K tokens on them but I have to agree the change they made did this. So I have to support this one as well. It would make me want to donate again instead of just waiting for the rest of the seasonal rare and rare cheevos to come along since after frost warrior superbowl 47 will come and so on.



Metallico -> RE: A use for tokens (10/24/2012 22:09:04)

And why not pay tokens for enter to pvp tornauments huh?



Lady Blue -> RE: A use for tokens (10/25/2012 8:03:05)

^
good idea. how about tokens for weapon enhancement just for additional idea :)



Camoflague MerC -> RE: A use for tokens (10/25/2012 8:31:48)

I seem to never have any tokens to donate to the flag my faction is trying to capture because of rare/ seasonal achievements, because you need a crap load of tokens to get most rare and seasonal cheevos, no one in my fac seems to have donated anything in the past 2 months. Tokens should'nt be used for purchasing cheevos, cheevos should be earned like in 99% of every other game on the planet, otherwise its to hard for new factions to really get of the ground and capture a flag, if all they're member just purchase cheevos instead of donating to a flag. Flags don't really have any real use yet, but thats a discussion for another time.......



8x -> RE: A use for tokens (10/25/2012 9:27:26)

Sure, I guess it would be nice if we received influence from donated tokens.
Here are some more suggestions for tokens:
- When devs bring back war cannons in faction HQ, tokens could be used to fire them instead of varium.
- Converting tokens to credits: 1 Token = 10 Credits.



Lord Loss... -> RE: A use for tokens (10/25/2012 12:46:01)

Thanks guys, I just thought that since donating tokens contribute to a factions success, then donations should get you more influence in faction. I did not want to suggest to big of a change, because most of the time they get dismissed. But I love some of the ideas you guys posted, like 8x suggested, maybe tokens for fire faction weapons. They could be an alternative way to hire george lowe or something.

@Camoflague MerC

I understand where you are coming from. I am guessing you are still new to this game as well as your faction members. I understand, but you have to make a decision on what to spend your tokens on, if you do not have enough for everything you want. For example I had to miss hallowarrior, independance day and frost warrior because I had no tokens, instead I donated them to my faction, but since then I got them the 2nd year around, and I have both rating and faction donations now as well. Capturing flags should not be easy any way, if it were made so easy to take control of a flag, so that all new factions could capture one, then there would be no prestige to it.



Crimson Eagle -> RE: A use for tokens (10/26/2012 6:30:51)

Yeah, the arcade was fun indeed... And you are totally right tokens arent used for much except cheevos and flags. Hope they do add something to grind our tokens on...



Death Gigas -> RE: A use for tokens (10/26/2012 22:18:41)

Supported. The Arcade was actually really fun, they should bring it back but offer better rewards instead instead of the rewards they offered in the past.



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