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Wrathchild -> Is Mercenary a bad class? (11/3/2012 16:28:11)

What do you guys think about it? Its filled with pretty good skills, like Hybrid Armor, Bunker Buster, Berserker, Blood Commander, Maul and Atom Smasher. So, what you guys find the point for it dont be a good class anymore?

I think the main point for it dont be usefull anymore is because support dont boost Field Medic anymore, and because Strength Builds arent so good anymore like Blood Mage or Bounty Hunters (Altough Blood Commander works like an weak blood lust and togheter with Maul skill + Berserker can be pretty deadly combination). Also another problem is energy recover, atom smasher could work like Assimilation and that would put mercenaries back in top. Technology Builds arent so good cause they dont have a way to debuff Malfunction, because a malfunction mage would really screw it cause it boosts Powerfull Bunker Buster and a Level 5 Focus Robot. Thats all...

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Warmaker04 -> RE: Is Mercenary a bad class? (11/3/2012 17:13:16)

There is still point to use it. You can 2vs2 and win alot with it. because its nerfed over 100 times doesnt means its bad class. Just opposite u said.

It have ittimidate = lows opponent str ( won alot times cuz of it )
Blood commander,
Rage gain,
Hybrid armor

its very tank class and excellent if you use right build.
i used 5 focus and did 18 wins in streak with it.

So that class isnt bad. Its made balanced through. We dont have smoke or malf but we have intimidate
we dont have shield def mat or energy shield / tech/matrix but we have hybrid and ( blood commander ) gives str .
instead of smoke/malf = berserk. its very powerful through.
Do ur medic high lvl like 5 +
So guys dont complain that merc suks cause its not true. All classes lose from it.

Every class have weakness. And every class is good if you use it right.

Kk thats from me





Bunshichi -> RE: Is Mercenary a bad class? (11/3/2012 17:19:55)

Mercenary is a good class I would not waste my varium to revert back to one though.




Mother1 -> RE: Is Mercenary a bad class? (11/3/2012 17:23:09)

Merc are a good class. I played as one before and I can tell you it isn't a bad class to play as. Heck I even won two vs two as a merc with my tech focus build. It is just really hard to recover from an EMP/ Atom smash/ Assimalation skill without boosters.




The Incredible Hulk -> RE: Is Mercenary a bad class? (11/3/2012 17:29:16)

YOUR SAYING MERCENARY IS A BAD CLASS!!! (exaggerating)

Mercenary is a good class. I'vs have love that clas ever since now.
Its one of the best class actually for 2v2. If I use that class I would be getting 85 percent 2v2 wins right now.
The main thing of this class is the adrenaline and you do get EMP'D quite alot but you can still win...

Out of everyone in ED, I would say manthong loves that class.
If you see him on 2v2 lb, he has 85 percent and he is a beast!
But the thing with him is that he gets too many good partners Unlike me ;/.




toa187 -> RE: Is Mercenary a bad class? (11/3/2012 17:48:11)

for me i been a merc since i started playing this game and that is a little over 3 years now
for me i think merc is one of the best . yes the merc has had skills taken away and all
witch was a bad thing due to that making the merc weak against other classes and so the merc should be upgraded
with a new skill like sniper that would act the same as deadly aim but improves with dex as we mercs have no skill that
improves with dex or give mercs a buff like smoke screen would be kool and put mercs in the same playing field as the rest xd




Mother1 -> RE: Is Mercenary a bad class? (11/3/2012 18:39:17)

Toa187

Smokescreen is a no no since it would OP the class. Tech abusers would have a field day with that one since Smokescreen and Bunker blaster both power up with tech. Think about it a tech abusing merc using smokescreen to 40-50 dex and then next turn hitting you with a super charged bunker blaster. Bunker already ignore 20% of defenses and with that smokescreen on them those are low and if it crits "this won't be pretty".

Yes they need a buff but smokescreen or anything that removes dex isn't the way to go.




toa187 -> RE: Is Mercenary a bad class? (11/3/2012 18:50:06)

man mercs do need an upgrade as a lvl 35 bm with only 18-10+33 strength
wiped me out with deadly aim now to me a class that can do damage of 52
with that little strength is bad for us mercs even lvl 30 29s can kill a lvl 35 merc
not good not good not good




Blaze The Aion Ender -> RE: Is Mercenary a bad class? (11/3/2012 19:31:06)

I just fought a lvl 33 merc with nearly 5k wins (like... 50 off) and 400 losses
I won... Twice, but it was close, and had luck flying everywhere

I think if you gave merc reflex boost, it would make the class great

Reflex boost: Helps against str BH's and regains a little energy for, say, an atom smash, or low level intimidate




Exploding Penguin -> RE: Is Mercenary a bad class? (11/3/2012 20:16:53)

Many people seem to think that merc isn't a bad class just because it's good at 2v2 alone... it lacks in 1v1 effectiveness compared to classes like TM and BH. Although atom smasher is a good energy removing skill, it pales in comparison to EMP as it's blockable and isn't worth leveling up that much. Blood commander/field commander are terrible buffs, just to be down to the point. They take a turn to use, high levels of it can raise around 8+ damage on gun and primary for the 4 turns that its effect is in play and lifesteal can be useful. Let's compared blood commander to something like a debuff. First of all, blood commander lasts 4 turns, while a debuff lasts only 3. This benefit for BC is somewhat cancelled though because it takes a turn to initiate without damaging the opponent. Then, with blood commander you don't necessarily use str-based attacks all the time, such as using field medic while blood commander is still affecting you. Smokescreen/malfunction, however, lowers the opponent's defense/resistance WHILE increasing your deflection/block chance and decreasing the opponent's. The only other benefit that BC has is that it costs a somewhat small amount of energy (and it has a weak lifesteal, but remember that BC has to have a high level to actually have an effective lifesteal amount and damage increase). Therefore commander/blood commander isn't as good as some debuffs/buffs. Hybrid armor/passive armors may seem like really good skills, but in truth, they're yet again nothing to compared to passives like deadly aim or blood lust. Rage ignores passive armors completely, and this is a humongous disadvantage to classes like CH and TLM, although less of a disadvantage to merc itself. Compared to blood lust where most hits heal 5-10 HP back, hybrid isn't nearly as good. Plus, hybrid has a large dex requirement while merc has no skills that benefit from dex. Intimidate can be useful, but strength scales slowly. If I'm a focus build and have level 4 intimidate, I can only lower the opponent's primary/gun output damage by around 5-6, or possibly even less if the opponent is a strength build. Bunker isn't nearly as good as some people think either. It costs a high amount of energy becuase lower levels of it aren't too effective, and merc has already limited amounts of energy, locking the use of bunker into place. Adrenaline is also not worth leveling up as a passive, especially compared to other passives like shadow arts and deadly aim. Its best use is only to level it up 1 time for an easy +10% rage gain, but the passive itself overall isn't that useful unless paired up with a support build, which is, as I said, the only reason merc is a "good" class because of its performance in 2v2. I agree with blaze that a buff like reflex boost would especially help merc as a class and make it more effective in 1v1, as a debuff pretty much messes up the entire fight.




Dravecul -> RE: Is Mercenary a bad class? (11/3/2012 20:28:33)

the class is as good as the player using it [;)]




RageSoul -> RE: Is Mercenary a bad class? (11/3/2012 21:24:24)

@Explosive Penguin
Pretty sure the reason they said it's good it's only because they haven't tried non-Var gear .

And oh , BTW , yeah it's good ... but not good enough to be in par with other classes.




Wrathchild -> RE: Is Mercenary a bad class? (11/3/2012 21:54:37)

Guys, i dont said it was bad, i tried to say its rare to see an level 35 mercenary in game...




RageSoul -> RE: Is Mercenary a bad class? (11/3/2012 22:02:13)

^Well that's the reason , it's currently bad because you have to buy a Hybrid Armor ( the purchasable class armor , not the passive skill ) , then some Varium stuff to be just as successful and there , it's ready , but still not in par .




Wrathchild -> RE: Is Mercenary a bad class? (11/3/2012 22:06:12)

I was thinking about an Blood Commander + Maul + Berserker combo, but i dont have money to try it...




doomturtle -> RE: Is Mercenary a bad class? (11/3/2012 22:54:36)

Ok I switched from merc today. I was one of the few level 35 mercs. There are a lot of good builds its a good class and with my tank build I had about an 80% win rate in 1v1. When I was non varium I used illuminators build during the infernal war and with a fairly good intimidate I could hold my own against the old strength BM. All in all merc is a good class but I feel it is missing something it needs a better passive. Because even if you rage a turn earlier after you rage your opponent gets rage it's kinda useless




zer00x -> RE: Is Mercenary a bad class? (11/3/2012 23:32:39)

@Wrathchild

Im actually using the Blood Commander + Atom Smasher + Maul + Berzerker and its working pretty good, i defeat a lot of varium players stuning them with a level 4 maul and then level 10 berzerker,with blood commander i have 114 strenght so it works. Get the money to retrain and try it, also if you have enhancements you can make it even better




Metallico -> RE: Is Mercenary a bad class? (11/4/2012 1:44:23)

Is not bad but is not really balanced, mercenaries canīt buff their defenses like a tactical merc, so a merc requires an assault bot to work...

Tactical mercenaries have blood shield, for that they can tank with a +40 defense and defend themselves but merc builds have no choice when they are smoked / malfed, i think hybrid armor and blood shield should return to the mercenary, or replace adrenaline for a similar to blood shield buff, they are not tanks anymore like they were in gamma phase when they were the most insane class...




rayniedays56 -> RE: Is Mercenary a bad class? (11/4/2012 2:06:05)

Mercenary is an amazing class! :D

The adrenaline skill is really nice (however, since the arrival of platinums pride it was nerfed) but it is still viable.


There are plans to increase hybrid armor, so that SHOULD be the buff that Mercenary needs. Also, they are planning on revamping Intimidate for mercs, which is another plus.




Warmaker04 -> RE: Is Mercenary a bad class? (11/4/2012 11:20:18)

@Lord Aegis.
Even the non vars can say its nice. i`m non var mercenary, and i`m winning variums easyly. As people and i told
* class is good if you use it right *
No matter if you are varium or non varium. It still owns in both situations

There are some mercs own even without the hybrid armor ( not the skill )
Sorry but i dont agree with your words.

You all went to all classes who has good skill trees. that dont makes you good.

@Wraithchild

Lol !!!! I saw alot mercenaries in the game who are high lvls and low levels!!!
check again lol.




Wrathchild -> RE: Is Mercenary a bad class? (11/4/2012 16:06:35)

@Warmaker Nah not true, i rarely find an High Level Mercenary, and they said mercs are good on 2x2 (I agree), but the only one i find are non-varium that never changed class and dont have enchancements.




Metallico -> RE: Is Mercenary a bad class? (11/4/2012 16:48:36)

Mercenary needs a buff, maybe a extra connection for the blocks.

@wratchild the only high lvl mercenary youīll find is a non varium one who will maybe change to tactical mercenary for do a healing loop tanky build...letīs be sincere the tactical mercenary has more benefits, they can become tanks with just using the blood shield and 40 defense + an assault bot they can be tanks, a normal mercenary canīt boost his defenses and support builds are so useless without energy so mercenaries are one of the most owned classes, i can easily kill em with my bounty hunter and tech mage but my mercenary gets owned easily by a blood mages or bounty hunters with strenght build, i have tried stun serker build, epic atom smasher with berserker but blood mages donīt need energy to do a high damage on me, iīd suggest to give mercenary their old hybrid armor, mercenary used to have improved by technology skills because they used to be defense tanks so they needed to improve their technology and they were able to switch to ressistanse...

and we can replace the useless passive skill that improves rage for technician, mercs canīt boost their dexterity and it is so equilibred because hybrid armor has +6 ressistanse and thereīd not be abuse builds




Wrathchild -> RE: Is Mercenary a bad class? (11/4/2012 16:53:15)

@Metallico They dont exactly need an buff, blood mages just have intimidate, which is not so good, but they are pretty good.




sky222 -> RE: Is Mercenary a bad class? (11/4/2012 23:33:41)

Everyone says that they tried a str build, a tank build, a support build, and a focus build and none of them work.
Why does no one say that they tried a 151 energy build?




Blaze The Aion Ender -> RE: Is Mercenary a bad class? (11/5/2012 0:31:07)

Sky

Here:

I tried it, one emp and you're done
Two, and you may as well exit the game




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