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arthropleura -> Smoke+Massacre (11/7/2012 23:38:08)

Apart from tanking or mage supp (cos of def matrix)
for me, a lvl 31 str focus tm beating a smoke mass build can be troublesome.
assuming i go first i malf, gun, aux or bot, assimilate and rage gun.
However, assimilate is often blocked though it is a key part.
Since directly nerfing str will be disadvantageous to all classes, nerfing BL will damage BM's and Nerfing mass will damage Cybers. that leaves smoke
so heres my idea: If smoke and massacre both have points invested, the smoked person has X% less chance to block and bloodlust is reduced by X% (havent decided)
Don't hate because a hunter cos you guys are ruining my awesome win rate :/
Ideas?




Blaze The Aion Ender -> RE: Smoke+Massacre (11/7/2012 23:46:05)

In a perfect, fair game world, every win rate would be about 50% wins

I don't like skills being this affected by your use of other skills




arthropleura -> RE: Smoke+Massacre (11/7/2012 23:49:55)

Well, the problem was that they gave a class an armor debuff and bloodlust (which is unique in itself) then they added massacre which could be potentially stacked upon the previous two skills.
so dont nerf bl or str, nerf the combination of skills




Mother1 -> RE: Smoke+Massacre (11/7/2012 23:50:35)

I personally have no issues with this combo.

While most hate smoke because str BH use it to power up their hits there are others who use it defensively to make dex based skills hurt less (Overload Plasma rain Multi shot) as well as weaken Technician for TM especially those casters who use this to OP their tech based moves.

As for Massacre I have no issue with it either though everyone wants it nerfed because once again Str BH destroy them with it. However unlike the other moves it doesn't have any other effect (rage steal ignore's defenses health gain build in) So while it does high damage I think it is fair since it has no other effect. If you want to nerf this add some effects to it because just nerfing it without doing this would make the move unbalanced with the other two ultimates.

So my idea if Massacre has to be nerfed then add some effects to it to it won't hurt the hunters who use it. Especially since Cyber hunter is the only class that doesn't gain health back from their ultimate.

As for smoke it is good as is since it like all debuffs it is also a defensive buff.




arthropleura -> RE: Smoke+Massacre (11/8/2012 0:10:03)

no no no no NO.
Sorry, but your missing that it ONLY affects bounty hunters, due to the fact it only affects smoke+ mass
bloodlust + massacre is already good enough isnt it? It does more damage than any other Ulti so thats good enough isnt it?
Thankyou :/




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