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goldslayer1 -> Fusion Damage - Concept (12/3/2012 3:10:21)

an idea i had to add more variety in builds, is Fusion Damage.
when you read it, it sounds weird i know.
so let me explain what the concept is, Fusion Damage is basically a combination of physical damage and energy damage. so the damage depends on the enemy's defense and resistance.

Fusion vs low def and res = high fusion damage
Fusion vs high def and low res = medium fusion damage
Fusion vs high def and res = low fusion damage

basically the way it would work is instead of the damage varying on defense or resistance alone like it is for physical and energy damage, it will vary on the opponents defense and resistance at the same time.


if balanced properly (meaning its on par with physical and energy weapons) then this could be a possible varium perk in the future?
keep in mind that this is only a concept idea, so i haven't worked out any numbers yet for this.



Exploding Penguin -> RE: Fusion Damage - Concept (12/3/2012 15:55:25)

Supported, but this could be pretty hard to implement. An interesting concept that I was also thinking of...
It makes sense, but it'd be tricky to balance. The best way I can think of is to make the fusion weapon have the base damage bonus equal to its brethren of the same level. To calculate the damage...that'd be a pain. Balancing something like this would be really hard! Would it make sense to get half of both defense and resistance, add them up, and then use that as the total damage reduction from the initial attack?
This would be a really interesting concept, as sometimes it would benefit you, but not at the same time. It'll pretty much average out all the damage you deal, rather than having it deal sometimes high and sometimes low based off of the opponent's defense/resistance.



Stabilis -> RE: Fusion Damage - Concept (12/3/2012 16:10:19)

Why not void damage?



Shadow Slayer 2 -> RE: Fusion Damage - Concept (12/3/2012 16:21:28)

Supported.

Maybe there should be a fusion primary/gun/aux. It would take the average of your opponents def/res and should do damage based on that.

e.g. you have a fusion primary: 18-22 + 35. That's about 55dmg. Your opponent has about 28 def and 32 res. The average is 30. So you'll do 25 dmg (55-30).



Vegafire -> RE: Fusion Damage - Concept (12/3/2012 16:40:21)

Supported, although i fear for you's if i get fusion weapons with my build :D



Sgt.Rock -> RE: Fusion Damage - Concept (12/3/2012 17:06:52)

I'll only support it as long as you get a spell for fusion sheild, like defense matrix or something passive.



The Astral Fury -> RE: Fusion Damage - Concept (12/3/2012 17:35:44)

Sgt. rock that's the beauty of the element say your defense is high, but your restiance is low so even though your gun would do little because of his high defense the fusion will make you do more damage because it's also targetting restiance too your you'll do more damage from this. You get what I mean? This is for the purpose to expand and give more unique builds and get some interesting numbers with damage, a fusion shield would ruin the concept.



TRizZzCENTRINO -> RE: Fusion Damage - Concept (12/3/2012 19:38:41)

doesnt this sound like 2 energy and physical weapons combines together? somehow this sounds like it would benefits strength builds greatly if it deals the......let me explain more clearly.

scenario: will deal 100% damage to both stats but will be lowered by DEF and RES
deals 100% physical damage to DEF: 50 total damage - 30-34 DEF = 20-16 damage dealt to opponent
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i attack with fusion damage gear
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deals 100% energy damage damage to RES: 50 total damage - 22-27 RES = 28-23 damage dealt to opponent
48-39 final damage dealt.

so if i have a physical primary weapon and i can also deal more damage if the RES of the stats of the opponent is low just sounds OP.



SCAR -> RE: Fusion Damage - Concept (12/3/2012 22:22:08)

Not Supported.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Fusion Damage - Concept (12/4/2012 8:41:09)

quote:

I'll only support it as long as you get a spell for fusion sheild, like defense matrix or something passive.

why need a new shield when u already have things like defense matrix and energy shield?
fusion damage would only do damage based on YOUR defenses.


@trizz
no, it wouldn't be stronger for str builds than a energy or physical already is.

all this does is allow players with fusion weapons, to do damage based on the enemy's defense AND resistance.
in the end, it should still be the same damage as an energy or physical weapon.

this also helps against 1 sided tank builds, like TECH mages, dex BH, physical armor TLMs.
its just for more variety in builds.

@dragonman
yeah, i see that u get what its suppose to do.
basically if u have really high defense but low resistance, fusion damage will deal more because ur resistance was low.
now if u had an energy weapon vs low resistance it would do more damage. but fusion also takes into account the high defense.



TRizZzCENTRINO -> RE: Fusion Damage - Concept (12/4/2012 16:05:05)

@above help with one sided tanks? if you want to defeat them just equip a physical primary and a energy sidearm and aux with infernal android.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Fusion Damage - Concept (12/4/2012 16:55:48)

@trizz
right, excepts this put all damage types, into one.
like i said, its just for more options in builds. more variety. you could do it that way, or you could do it fusion way.

and i dont think i ever met anyone who said there shouldn't be more options in builds...



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