Disscuss the new health and energy system. (Full Version)

All Forums >> [Artix Entertainment Games] >> [EpicDuel] >> EpicDuel General Discussion



Message

TalkToMuchFor2Long -> Disscuss the new health and energy system. (12/17/2012 5:53:48)

I think that many are aware of they new HP and ENERGY system that will come with the omega update.

For every statpoint you put in to hp you will recieve 1 hp same with energy.

what do you think about this, is it good or bad?
will this affect the game alot?



Jekyll -> RE: Disscuss the new health and energy system. (12/17/2012 5:57:17)

Let me refer you to this thread: http://forums2.battleon.com/f/tm.asp?m=20944848



goldslayer1 -> RE: Disscuss the new health and energy system. (12/17/2012 6:01:30)

of course it will affect the game alot.
and IMO, this system is gonna be bad.

i already have friends who dont plan on returning to ED if its like this, so im hoping ED doesn't do it like that.

@jekyll
lol :D



Ranloth -> RE: Disscuss the new health and energy system. (12/17/2012 7:31:47)

I find it good since we will get good stat overhaul which will balance all the other stats. Some people claim Devs are doing poor job with overhaul without even knowing details and think they can do better with not touching HP at all.

You can't really discuss something that isn't out (not as well at least), or judge how bad it is although we have smart people around who are the ones who know everything. Derp.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Disscuss the new health and energy system. (12/17/2012 8:06:15)

@trans
we do dont we?
theres some out there that think reducing stat will make it perfect. and reduce luck factors aswell.

maybe some people just dont realize a complete overhaul isn't needed, when u can achieve the same thing as the overhaul without doing so much, and at the same time not making people feel ripped off cause u took their enhancements.



cool preston -> RE: Disscuss the new health and energy system. (12/17/2012 8:11:51)

I'm pretty sure the devs know what they are doing. From what goony described you also start with more hp. And also take not with no enhancements people will not be able to dish out tue dmg they use to. Lower health is critical to make the battle not last so long. It will ruin 5 focus but not 4 focus. It also makes sure you cannot abuse energy or hp without sacrificing seething else. It is a good change.



Ranloth -> RE: Disscuss the new health and energy system. (12/17/2012 8:15:42)

@cool preston
Stats are getting overhaul because of the way they work. They aim to make it less luck-based and more depending on your actual stats, and bringing the damage down of stats such as Strength. But goldslayer thinks it's for sake of HP so I wouldn't argue with him since it'll end up in thread getting closed down. Poking on balance issues without change even happening nor having whole info is meaningless since he can assume this will happen with current system and has no knowledge of new system. And he based off the change to suck since base HP wasn't raised as much in the video, he knows numbers aren't final and he didn't account for it to raise either.

One does not simply tell others how to run their game. <_< >_>

/common sense



Vegafire -> RE: Disscuss the new health and energy system. (12/17/2012 8:16:42)

In simpler words, No more annoying casters and loopers :D Damage will be decreased due to this new system not allowing extra enhancements so in comparison the ammount of hp and energy acheiveable has to be lowered so that battles are not lasting 15+ rounds, its balancing the HP/Energy with the new system, although HP should probably stay at 2 per point or possibly 3 per 2 points allocated (minimum of two allocated) it is balancing the game overall :D That and the link between support and Feild medic is being re initiated so we will heal more effectively, like the good old times



goldslayer1 -> RE: Disscuss the new health and energy system. (12/17/2012 8:35:54)

@trans
its obvious u didn't understand the concept of my idea.
in my idea the overhaul isn't needed. i specifically stated that.

and yes i accounted, yet another part u failed to read.

my idea is suggesting a system (suggestions dont tell others how to run their game) its a different system.

u say they bring it down to reduce the effects of luck, yet mines does the same thing, but ur against it.
my suggestion also wont make players feel ripped off because their stats were taken away.

it does the same thing, but they have to do less work.



Ranloth -> RE: Disscuss the new health and energy system. (12/17/2012 8:41:45)

This thread is to discuss health and energy, not self-advertise suggestions. Besides they have already done big part of the overhaul or are coding it as we speak. Throwing it out for sake of old system doesn't cut anymore. There's no way to judge the changes without knowing them. Only because something isn't needed - or so you say - doesn't mean it cannot be done nor fact Devs are wrong - or so you say - and you're right. <.<

Stat overhaul was needed. All stats; Str gave too much of an advantage, Dex had inconsistent blocks, Tech did same with deflections + all bonuses it gave, and Support is STILL lagging behind so they are working on the way to buff it (Rabble said it yesterday). So HP change isn't because of the overhaul, get it in your head. Since players WILL deal less damage either way - not only due to lower amount of stats - that means lower HP will NOT be a problem. Rabble already gave you the answer for the change, and Devs always have the final say (likewise with Forum Mods). >.>



Stabilis -> RE: Disscuss the new health and energy system. (12/17/2012 8:44:00)

Can we make the minimum damage = 0 and if an attack's damage = 0, supplement a large bonus to rage?



goldslayer1 -> RE: Disscuss the new health and energy system. (12/17/2012 8:46:25)

quote:

This thread is to discuss health, not self-advertise suggestions. Besides they have already done big part of the overhaul or are coding it as we speak. Throwing it out for sake of old system doesn't cut anymore. There's no way to judge the changes without knowing them. Only because something isn't needed - or so you say - doesn't mean it cannot be done nor fact Devs are wrong - or so you say - and you're right. <.<


yet u say my suggestion is bad without knowing the new system either. :/



quote:

Stat overhaul was needed. All stats; Str gave too much of an advantage, Dex had inconsistent blocks, Tech did same with deflections + all bonuses it gave, and Support is STILL lagging behind so they are working on the way to buff it (Rabble said it yesterday). So HP change isn't because of the overhaul, get it in your head. Since players WILL deal less damage either way - not only due to lower amount of stats - that means lower HP will NOT be a problem. Rabble already gave you the answer for the change, and Devs always have the final say (likewise with Forum Mods). >.>


str builds dominated because ED slowly nerfed every other build in the game.
how do u expect strength not to have an advantage if every other stat kept getting nerfed by the devs?
thats common sense that if u nerfed every other stat, what was left would become stronger.

and yeah get it thru YOUR head that its a suggestion and things can change.

why bring up that they can change stuff and then tell me they have the final say, as if to say stop suggesting because they wont change it >.>



Vegafire -> RE: Disscuss the new health and energy system. (12/17/2012 8:54:37)

All changes are normally bassed arround players ideas and suggestions yes but at the end of the day gold trans has a point, its down to the devs once we fill their heads with ideas



TurkishIncubus -> RE: Disscuss the new health and energy system. (12/17/2012 12:55:40)

I said my opinion about this in another thread.

I will make a prediction in here. I think TLM will be very OP in Omega.

Maybe developers will change alot of things that they didnt even shared with us and i will be wrong.

We will see in Omega.



rene196 -> RE: Disscuss the new health and energy system. (12/17/2012 13:31:51)

As I see it I know for a fact focus builds are destroyed. It will be hard for me to co-operate with other classes since I‘m a tech mage.
Surviving those str builds is gonna be tough with low hp or defenses. *~*



RageSoul -> RE: Disscuss the new health and energy system. (12/17/2012 22:45:58)

Like from the other threads , this is a bad idea . I mean , what's HP have anything to do with defenses and damage if 1) i tend to have lower defenses and damage and 2) battles can last longer or shorter than you think ?



kaiseryeux21 -> RE: Disscuss the new health and energy system. (12/17/2012 23:14:07)

looking forward to this.

as for me, let's cross the bridge when we get there. this change is a bit complicated since this will affect so many builds and strategies. but lets see. I know the devs knows what they are doing. its just a matter of how we adopt to this kind of situation.



ninja.fighter -> RE: Disscuss the new health and energy system. (12/18/2012 2:24:04)

well its gona make str players a little less strong i guess



Xendran -> RE: Disscuss the new health and energy system. (12/18/2012 4:33:55)

There should be no balance discussion on omega because it is NOT released and we do not know how the new stats or combat engine work. Therefore, everything said regarding omega balance is completely irrelevant and means nothing.



xxmirxx -> RE: Disscuss the new health and energy system. (12/18/2012 5:00:18)

then you did not see youtube video cause they did show us sneak peek.



Lady Blue -> RE: Disscuss the new health and energy system. (12/18/2012 5:05:10)

all i can say. welcome to new world OMEGA



Xendran -> RE: Disscuss the new health and energy system. (12/18/2012 5:07:46)

quote:

then you did not see youtube video cause they did show us sneak peek.


Dont respond to posts in a way that ignores the meaning of it.

They have stated that they are redoign the combat engine and stats, knowing that we get 1ep/hp is not the only change being made. Nobody has any idea what the balance of omega is like yet, so there's no point in even discussing it.



RabbleFroth -> RE: Disscuss the new health and energy system. (12/18/2012 11:02:22)

quote:

Nobody has any idea what the balance of omega is like yet, so there's no point in even discussing it.

I'm not really sure if there's a meaning to life, but it still makes for an interesting discussion!

Speculation is interesting and informative, and allows for any needed clarification.

Also, please keep the discussion civil.



Stabilis -> RE: Disscuss the new health and energy system. (12/18/2012 11:24:30)

I do not get why speculation is prohibited if it is all theoretical?



Waxor9001 -> RE: Disscuss the new health and energy system. (12/18/2012 11:56:33)

I'm ok with the new system, since the skills will probably be modified to fit with it.



Page: [1]

Valid CSS!




Forum Software © ASPPlayground.NET Advanced Edition
0.09375