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Jmagician -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread LXIII - READ THE FIRST POST (1/11/2013 15:51:45)

@Amaurosis: I haven't fought anything but Ice types yet so I can't say the same for the others but all I do is spam damaging cards and discard shields and I still end up with a good and healthy amount of hp. The way I see it, the amount of shields they put up hasn't changed at all, they just attack while putting them up now. Doing 1s and 2s xD



3 Vandoren -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread LXIII - READ THE FIRST POST (1/11/2013 15:52:03)

@Amaurosis:
What is refresh farming?



Vagaran -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread LXIII - READ THE FIRST POST (1/11/2013 15:52:34)

@3 Vandoren

You refresh until you encounter the monster you want to possess.



Basicball -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread LXIII - READ THE FIRST POST (1/11/2013 15:53:04)

I don't see how everyone is having so much problems.
I've yet to lose a fight (not counting the ones where I went AFK because I forgot I was in a fight)



avavr -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread LXIII - READ THE FIRST POST (1/11/2013 15:53:13)

@magton nt all characters have buffed unblockables

@above ikr



Matgon -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread LXIII - READ THE FIRST POST (1/11/2013 15:53:19)

@3 Vandoren: You keep refreshing the page or logging out, until you find what you're looking for, is not very good because you have to keep going to the location in the map.



Amaurosis -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread LXIII - READ THE FIRST POST (1/11/2013 15:54:00)

@JMagician

It's different for everyone, they don't follow same patterns but adapt, in a way.


@Vandoren

Refresh your game and explore until what you want shows up, it's useful for people who don't want to farm but want a certain character. It helps skip all the fighting.


@Basicball

I lost a few times, but I'm using Squire because I'm farming it to Master so I can aquire the masters I don't yet, so with his somewhat low damage i'm bound to lose eventually.



3 Vandoren -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread LXIII - READ THE FIRST POST (1/11/2013 15:56:55)

I agree with Matgon... I could kill an opponent faster than I could sign out, back in, and then find the North Gate to see if I could get a Frost Zard...



Matgon -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread LXIII - READ THE FIRST POST (1/11/2013 16:01:20)

@3 Vandoren: I know right?

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@magton nt all characters have buffed unblockables


It's Matgon [8D] and yeah I was talking about how to easily kill him with light characters with might + unblockables and blessed strike combos.



avavr -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread LXIII - READ THE FIRST POST (1/11/2013 16:03:14)

sry @mat
cn i cl u mat?!
Bt my point is wat of the characters that r non light or dnt have buffed unblockables
since i was using FC(which i blieve is the best char in game ryt nw yes @basicball better than bd too) I didnt have much trouble bt if it were weaker characters i was farming with then maybe it wud b tougher



Matgon -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread LXIII - READ THE FIRST POST (1/11/2013 16:07:45)

@avavr: Yeah, no problem.

I do agree it would take longer with other characters but everyone has unblockable attacks so even though it would take a LONG time you can still win by using all the shield cards and unblockables and discarting the rest.



so0meone -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread LXIII - READ THE FIRST POST (1/11/2013 16:10:47)

Fire: You have Fire Ball. Nuff said. They rip shields down like nobody's business. I have no Master Fire characters yet but their special card should help a lot too.
Water: You probably have a crapton of shields yourself, plus Power Flow and Refresh. Outlasting should be no problem.
Energy: First off, you have buffed unblockables here. Second, Energy rips through shields pretty well anyway, and it's really efficient.
Earth: Stone Strike is your friend. Mountain Strike and Petrify will help too, especially used together.
Ice: Just return the favor, shield wall. You have a brain. They don't.
Light: Might. Blessed Strike. Make Holy Strike unblockable.
Shadow: DoT much?
Neutral: Counter Strike. Ironhide + Cat Reflex combos. Power Strike.

Every element in-game has some way around lots of shields, which is why Ice needs its Special cards as much as it does.



Basicball -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread LXIII - READ THE FIRST POST (1/11/2013 16:11:26)

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FC(which I believe is the best char in game right now (Yes @basicball better than BD as well))

Sorry, but as it is right now (without elemental resistances), Black Dragon is by far the better of the 2



Vagaran -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread LXIII - READ THE FIRST POST (1/11/2013 16:13:26)

With Elemental resistance: FC is stronger

W/out resistance: BD is stronger.



Riniti -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread LXIII - READ THE FIRST POST (1/11/2013 16:13:43)

@Basicball I've still never lost to a BD, just FC's... I find FC's to be much better.



avavr -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread LXIII - READ THE FIRST POST (1/11/2013 16:13:47)

@mat
every char may have unblockables bt nt every char can beef up the unblockables eg. Might or incinerate
so ur telling me to keep shelding my self and keep doing 1 frickin unblockable damage a turn?!



so0meone -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread LXIII - READ THE FIRST POST (1/11/2013 16:13:54)

BD is offensive. FC is more defensive.

@ Above: Every element has their easy ways to break down/get around shields. Even 20-shields haven't been bothering me regardless of which element I'm using. Note that that's been PvP, I still have not fought the new AI yet.



Vagaran -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread LXIII - READ THE FIRST POST (1/11/2013 16:14:57)

FC is defensive? Hahahahaha best joke of the year!



Basicball -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread LXIII - READ THE FIRST POST (1/11/2013 16:16:39)

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@Basicball I've still never lost to a BD, just FC's... I find FC's to be much better.


You haven't fought me yet.
and I believe I am one of the few people who trained both to 20, so you can trust me on this one



so0meone -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread LXIII - READ THE FIRST POST (1/11/2013 16:16:51)

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FC is defensive? Hahahahaha best joke of the year!


If you read it, I said MORE defensive. As in, not completely focused on beating the snot out of everything. I did not say it was fully defensive. I'd put it at Neutral on that scale, or maybe offensive leaning, but Black Dragon is a lot more so. If it didn't have Void Reflection I'd be calling it Fully-Offensive.



avavr -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread LXIII - READ THE FIRST POST (1/11/2013 16:17:27)

@basic only 1 way to find out ryt ?!
BD vs FC
both shud b lvl 20
do 10 fights that shud give u a nyc round avg win/loss ratio



Vertigo Beast -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread LXIII - READ THE FIRST POST (1/11/2013 16:18:14)

v0.5.43 is out,


jk logged onto my other alpha account those 6 SGs have been there for a while xD



Riniti -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread LXIII - READ THE FIRST POST (1/11/2013 16:18:19)

@Basicball Once I get my Rev Egg to 20, we'll see how it goes... if you want, we could do it now, but I rather doing equal levels.



Vagaran -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread LXIII - READ THE FIRST POST (1/11/2013 16:19:28)

FC

Shield quantity: 2

Heal quantity: 2

If that is what makes a character just mid defensiv I don't want to know what makes a character a fully defensiv.



so0meone -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread LXIII - READ THE FIRST POST (1/11/2013 16:20:48)

Where in that comment did you read "mid-defensive"? I thought I clearly said NEUTRAL/OFFENSIVE LEANING. By "MORE DEFENSIVE" I meant more defensive than BD.

And by my count that would be 2 Shields, 4 Heals of either kind plus a delayed attack. I can't view anything delayed, regardless of by how much or how strong it is, as offensive because of the time it gives the opponent to prepare. Retribution may hit after only 1 turn, but that's still a warning to get shields up. Full offense wouldn't give a warning. That'd be more like Power Flow's immediate 15 damage.



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