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TalkToMuchFor2Long -> Dont like this update (2/7/2013 1:51:20)

I think that this Omega thing is really unfair, it's not even balanced and thats a bad thing, but the bad updates that came with Omega overweight the good updates.

1.The only builds I see is STR builds, every class is using str builds.
2.I think that BH is to OP with that skillcore ''Ninja Reflexes'', which gives 4% block chance (it stacks with shadow arts) making it 14% block chance + the amount of dex you have.
3. The juggernaut mode is destroyed, really hard to win.
4. If your opponent starts, there is no chance your winning except for luck, there is no skill, all it takes to win is to start.
5. Every weapon has the same stats in the end, which sucks, I like it more when u have different weapons with different stats, just to mixed it up a little bit.

They didnt even let the players test Omega and give some feedback, only moderators and admins tested the game, NOT the players, if they want to make a more balanced game let the players be the testers and give feedback, now in before someone says: ''they showed us pictures and a few videos'', and I can answer that and say that hundreds of questions were unanswered, I totally regret getting 10k pack and preorder.

I dont know if you've ever heard or played this game before, the game Runescape, it was a very decent game until the developers started making bad updates, they realeased EoC, which stands for Evolution of Combat, thousands of players who support the game financially, im talking about 50k players. You wanna know why people quit?, CAUSE THET DIDNT LIKE THE EOC UPDATE, AND THE GAME DIDNT TAKE FEEDBACK FROM PLAYERS, THEY ONLY TOOK FEEDBACK FROM MODERATORS. but now they listened and they will probably bring back the pre-EoC servers back up, and if they do that I will quit Epicduel and go play Runescape.

I suggest this, and I want some feedback on what you think on this idea and I will put this on the Suggestion section.

If I could take the good things from all the updates (Beta, Delta, Omega and so on) I would create this:

I would put back the enchancement system, but make it cheaper so non-varium can afford to enchance and compete.
For every varium weapon I release I would make a credit option.
I would take off the ''Core System'' where you can select cores, I would instead make that every weapon has its unique core, just to make it more competeable and fun (just as in delta)
Last but not least I want to fix the stats update and make that 1 statpoint = 2 Healthpoints or 2 Energypoints.





Betabot. -> RE: Dont like this update (2/7/2013 2:00:44)


1. There are alot of different builds out there, Support (Malf and Multi), Strength, Hybrid and 5 Focus. So not everything is using strength.
2. Don't have much to comment on this, but if everyone can have it, it doesn't make BH OP. Plus there are cores for weapons to increase strike rate.
3. Don't play it then, till it is fixed, the Dev's have said they are looking into changing it a bit.
4. Not true, If you think that then your build must fail. Omega is an update that has made alot of people think carefully about builds, true some have just went back to strength abuse, but others haven't and have come up with great builds.
5. It does make the gameplay a bit blander, but it gives players the freedom, which was the point of this whole update.

There is a topic on feedback that the Dev's started, before you go and start complaining, go and look around.

Runescape is nothing like EpicDuel, so don't try compare the two games.

BTW this isn't in the Suggestion Section.



CHELSEA ROX -> RE: Dont like this update (2/7/2013 2:07:25)

1) Well a lot of players think that omega is not balanced but actually its well balanced except for juggernaut battles. 1vs1 battles are balanced and they have reached their objective to close the gap between varium and non-varium and yes str build everywhere but im sure people will come up with new builds
2)i agree with you that each weapon has same stat in the end is boring coz it doesnt serve the purpose of buying variety of weapons.
3)as the mods said in their vids balance would be closely monitored after omega releases... so least what we can do is wait



Omega ^~^ -> RE: Dont like this update (2/7/2013 2:08:02)

Wel the reason u don't like is cause u don't have a good build an a good strategy on killing them
Some guy told me hacker because my stats were high their my dex is 32 +7 my resistance 35 +3 an my smoke always decreases their dex an I put max shadow arts wich helps an then they tell me hacker because I block their mana moves all the strennght Mercs



TalkToMuchFor2Long -> RE: Dont like this update (2/7/2013 2:33:57)

quote:

Runescape is nothing like EpicDuel, so don't try compare the two games.

BTW this isn't in the Suggestion Section.


Well, I didnt compare the games, I compared how they made thier updates, Runescape does what its payers want, Epicduel don't.
I know this isnt the suggestion section, but anybody that have went to school knows that I said that I know this isnt the suggestion topic, I put this in this section for feedback, and I will put this into suggestion when I get more feedback so I can edit it.




Angels Holocaust -> RE: Dont like this update (2/7/2013 2:36:49)

I think Omega is perfect, it is exactly what the players wanted. We got rid of those pesky npcs that gave people free wins. We got rid of Juggernaut, a mode which everyone hated. Best of all, we got rid of enhancements for skill cores which are 100x times more affordable. It's a win win for everyone.



Omega ^~^ -> RE: Dont like this update (2/7/2013 2:41:07)

Angels I support that an people should be happy your still the best player no matter what Im huge fan
An also non varium players were bout to start quitting they don't wanna see non paying players leave



Omega ^~^ -> RE: Dont like this update (2/7/2013 2:42:22)

I like the way they put this update don't know y people hate it


Commander Cody 35



Betabot. -> RE: Dont like this update (2/7/2013 2:42:53)

Fully agree with Angels Holocaust, Omega is a huge step in the right direction, and it maybe take awhile to get used to, but it's for the better.



Omega ^~^ -> RE: Dont like this update (2/7/2013 2:45:24)

Yea I think she stop playing cause of the stat abusers that were playing



theholyfighter -> RE: Dont like this update (2/7/2013 2:49:21)

quote:

I think Omega is perfect, it is exactly what the players wanted. We got rid of those pesky npcs that gave people free wins. We got rid of Juggernaut, a mode which everyone hated. Best of all, we got rid of enhancements for skill cores which are 100x times more affordable. It's a win win for everyone.

Yep
quote:

I like the way they put this update don't know y people hate it

Yep
quote:

Wel the reason u don't like is cause u don't have a good build an a good strategy on killing them
Some guy told me hacker because my stats were high their my dex is 32 +7 my resistance 35 +3 an my smoke always decreases their dex an I put max shadow arts wich helps an then they tell me hacker because I block their mana moves all the strennght Mercs

Yep, lol
quote:

I think that this Omega thing is really unfair, it's not even balanced and thats a bad thing, but the bad updates that came with Omega overweight the good updates.

1.The only builds I see is STR builds, every class is using str builds.
2.I think that BH is to OP with that skillcore ''Ninja Reflexes'', which gives 4% block chance (it stacks with shadow arts) making it 14% block chance + the amount of dex you have.
3. The juggernaut mode is destroyed, really hard to win.
4. If your opponent starts, there is no chance your winning except for luck, there is no skill, all it takes to win is to start.
5. Every weapon has the same stats in the end, which sucks, I like it more when u have different weapons with different stats, just to mixed it up a little bit.

They didnt even let the players test Omega and give some feedback, only moderators and admins tested the game, NOT the players, if they want to make a more balanced game let the players be the testers and give feedback, now in before someone says: ''they showed us pictures and a few videos'', and I can answer that and say that hundreds of questions were unanswered, I totally regret getting 10k pack and preorder. I dont know if you've ever heard or played this game before, the game Runescape, it was a very decent game until the developers started making bad updates, they realeased EoC, which stands for Evolution of Combat, thousands of players who support the game financially, im talking about 50k players. You wanna know why people quit?, CAUSE THET DIDNT LIKE THE EOC UPDATE, AND THE GAME DIDNT TAKE FEEDBACK FROM PLAYERS, THEY ONLY TOOK FEEDBACK FROM MODERATORS. but now they listened and they will probably bring back the pre-EoC servers back up, and if they do that I will quit Epicduel and go play Runescape.

I suggest this, and I want some feedback on what you think on this idea and I will put this on the Suggestion section.

If I could take the good things from all the updates (Beta, Delta, Omega and so on) I would create this:

I would put back the enchancement system, but make it cheaper so non-varium can afford to enchance and compete.
For every varium weapon I release I would make a credit option.
I would take off the ''Core System'' where you can select cores, I would instead make that every weapon has its unique core, just to make it more competeable and fun (just as in delta)
Last but not least I want to fix the stats update and make that 1 statpoint = 2 Healthpoints or 2 Energypoints.

For the parts crossed out I do not agree with. For the rest it's fine to me. Just my thoughts tho.


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Omega ^~^ -> RE: Dont like this update (2/7/2013 2:58:36)

Hey u got my quote



Lordshadow92 -> RE: Dont like this update (2/7/2013 3:40:25)

I do hate it Some of it

as One is That i didn't get my VArium back from the wepons i enchament less then i expected i got 2500 and every wepon enchament

4 wepons i have

1 : 10 slots

2: 10 slots

3: 9 slots

4: 9 slots

http://epicduelwiki.com/w/Enhancements <-- Befre omega


and i i got back only 2500 VArium and no CREDITS !



supermasivo -> RE: Dont like this update (2/7/2013 5:51:03)

worst update ever in epicduel...
they gave me back 4,500 var and i xpend over 30k-40k var... im playing since beta.



Buffy A. Summers -> RE: Dont like this update (2/7/2013 6:10:00)

I Think The Staff Had Good Intentions And Ideas With Omega, In Concept...

But The Testers Really Did NOT Do A Good Job Seeing Some Very Obvious Balance Issues In Various Battle Modes, Classes And Level Ranges.

Overall, I'd Grade This Omega Launch C-, D Overall If You Include The Long Delay Before It Finally Began.

Good Concepts, But Translated Poorly In Actual Play... And WE Are The Ones Who Have To PAY For It... Literally.

~ Buffy




the final hour -> RE: Dont like this update (2/7/2013 6:13:58)

fellas i think angels is being sarcastic.

i like the unlimited npcs

i think its poetic justice that the juggs are having to face what they did to the lowbs in phases gone by ( it does need changing though like seriously)

everything else about omega i absolutely hate i hated delta . this game barely hun g on to me as a paying player and looking at its servers and player base it desperately needed me then and it desperately needs me now .especially with the $$ i put in

god i hated delta so much

but out of delta and omega right now i think the devs best move is to return delta for the games sake . all im saying




kaj -> RE: Dont like this update (2/7/2013 6:17:40)

Omega is great to promote original builds and equal chances for all classes.
I love the game again.
People just need to adjust to the new strategics and correct balance imo.
Mostly all beta build will work with adequate adjustments.
Gogo ED team!!

.T



the final hour -> RE: Dont like this update (2/7/2013 6:20:14)

quote:

Omega is great to promote original builds and equal chances for all classes.


dude everyones a strengh build ok almost everyones a strengh build. original ?



kaj -> RE: Dont like this update (2/7/2013 6:23:56)

Support, focus, tech builds heck even dex builds work...
Once people figure it out str will be put aside.
Take advantage now because those str builds are all laughavly easily countered....

.T



Blitzex/Sr. Zeph -> RE: Dont like this update (2/7/2013 6:29:46)

It is true there are several builds that work.
But come on, there are alot of builds that 2 hit ko everyone, that is not what i call ''Balance''.

I agree with Angels about the enchancements, npcs and skill cores part.
But
quote:

We got rid of Juggernaut, a mode which everyone hated

Uhmm whaaatt?
Only people who hated it are the opponents who cant even think straight in a battle.
Or people who are bad at it and want to remove their record.
alot of lvl 35s love this mode, including me. (Well loved then, its totally destroyed right now)
It was the ONLY real BALANCED mode we had, only because the opponents had lack of strategy and gear it was a ''unbalanced'' mode.
Please people, get over yourself about this mode, it WAS totally balanced.



the final hour -> RE: Dont like this update (2/7/2013 6:32:31)

funny tell that too the support builds i pwned if i went first smoke let them dm still get about 15 dmg thro the shield energy gun strike mass . support build down .

strengh is being used cos its the most powerful when you can get a build with 110 hp capable of doing mass over 60 damage highest ive hit is 90 not much can counter that , i dont want to use the build i know its a abuse build but its the only way of standing a chnc against the other strengh abusers



Blitzex/Sr. Zeph -> RE: Dont like this update (2/7/2013 6:50:02)

^ yup.

Youre forced to use a spam build right now or you wont survive even 1 battle.
Its getting way to ridicoulos.

i wonder what the testers where doing during the balance test?
They should have seen this coming right....?



the final hour -> RE: Dont like this update (2/7/2013 6:57:30)

they should have i mean lmao

99.9% of mercs are using strengh builds
99,9% of bhes and ches are using strengh builds
99.9% of bms are using ? you guessed it strengh builds
99.9% of tlms are dying -__-
and the mages i aint seen to many the ones i have are rolling focus or support the focus builds die fast in my experience the support builds die about 75% of the time

im guessing everyones using strengh cause its so weak right now ^.^ not cos its unbelieveabley overpowering and pretty much unstoppable



TankMage -> RE: Dont like this update (2/7/2013 7:17:42)

Locking this up, please use the official thread for all Omega feedback. - =ED= Omega Update Feedback



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