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ScarletReaper -> RE: The Game is balanced! (2/7/2013 18:43:30)

I think the game is close to balenced now. Kinda sucks that varium is useless now but whatever. Still loving the release. Bout time my merc stopped being stepped all over by them bloodmages. :D



_i_am_a_helper_ -> RE: The Game is balanced! (2/7/2013 18:44:58)

Balanced yeah, I've gotten blocked at least 100 times since the release and made only 10 wins and 30 loses ._.



DeathGuard -> RE: The Game is balanced! (2/7/2013 18:46:21)

I'm happy about still being a Tech Mage, enjoying a lot beating other players who rant about the game being unfair when they used copy-cat builds.



ScarletReaper -> RE: The Game is balanced! (2/7/2013 18:46:39)

Weird. both my characters win around 60 percent of the time. Only lose to strength bounty.



LatinLover/Martini -> RE: The Game is balanced! (2/7/2013 18:48:27)

Did angels just give a compliment?
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100 percent true statement. ED Omega is balanced, I don't know why I was so against this update in the first place but the update has certainly changed my mind. We are well on our way to equality and that's the best. Varium should never in all of it's existence play such an enormous role in winning. It's looking good now, let's continue. We are not moving backward, we are moving forward!



sleddyboy3 -> RE: The Game is balanced! (2/7/2013 19:13:10)

The ironic thing is that the ED team will make far less profit now, considering everything can be bought with credits. I was going to purchase varium, but thereisn't any point now.

Omega is far from balanced. Everybody abuses strength, creativity no longer exists. Conform or die.



willendorf -> RE: The Game is balanced! (2/7/2013 19:34:49)

^ Its like communism!!!



Exploding Penguin -> RE: The Game is balanced! (2/7/2013 19:43:25)

Contrary to common belief, I believe that it actually is balanced. While most of the cores are strongly centered around strength, it's not at such a drastic amount as to make strength builds overpowered. I've read things like "there is no more creativity." Before there was no creativity. I mean, creativity was like adding extra support to BM focus back in delta. Common opinion's defined "creativity" is pretty much using any build other than strength, focus, or caster. Now you might actually NEED true creativity if you want to beat those so-called "OP Strength Builds." Seriously, I'm using poison support CH and I've won a good chunk of my fights and I also lose some reasonably, just at about the same rate as before. I think there are too many presumptions that the system is unbalanced because 1) you can't use boosters and 2) people are still conforming to the new system.

What I find slightly disconcerning is that a bunch of cores which anyone can access pretty much make previous promos obsolete. Also, infernal slayer, dragon buster, etc.. all are virtually useless compared to any other sword of the same damage type. I believe that some old promos/seasonal items should carry additional stat points so that they aren't the equivalent of pretty much any other normal weapon that anyone can buy. Also, we can't explore "true" creativity until there is a much larger stat cap when distributing stat points on items. 10 max on swords is truly limiting, and it makes it hard to explore new build types with such limits. I honestly don't care about the 2 HP/energy per 1 point; I'm fine with both ways.



Stabilis -> RE: The Game is balanced! (2/7/2013 20:17:01)

Will,

Communism is not an economy.



willendorf -> RE: The Game is balanced! (2/7/2013 20:21:19)

^ Bah, humbug. I was talking about the equality part. Some people put more in than others ($) but everyone gets the same.



Sir Xander -> RE: The Game is balanced! (2/7/2013 20:30:20)

You guys are just stuck in the elitist mind frame with the Misconception that varium makes you stronger. Delta was a HUGE problem. when people have +50 on their stats, they are way over the limit for stacking a skill. Also, you DO NOT need lots of HP, you can make it through fine with moderate hp/ep and good stats with balanced stats on your weapons.



willendorf -> RE: The Game is balanced! (2/7/2013 21:14:03)

^ Deltas gap was waaay too big. We should get more benefits than we do in omega though. And the game itself would only be balanced if everyone had str builds...



MirageD -> RE: The Game is balanced! (2/7/2013 21:18:56)

are you kidding? no other comment :(



ED Prince of Shadows -> RE: The Game is balanced! (2/7/2013 21:37:54)

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Did angels just give a compliment?
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100 percent true statement. ED Omega is balanced, I don't know why I was so against this update in the first place but the update has certainly changed my mind. We are well on our way to equality and that's the best. Varium should never in all of it's existence play such an enormous role in winning. It's looking good now, let's continue. We are not moving backward, we are moving forward!

Indeed she did, the devs obviously must have done something right!



Hun Kingq -> RE: The Game is balanced! (2/7/2013 21:46:54)

Balance this game is far from being balanced when having high dex or high tech or both and the opponent is getting damage on you as if you had no defense or resistance, there is no balance.

When comparable skills get vastly different damage there is no balance.

Before someone can say there is balance no skill should be able to give damage as if you had no defense or resistance.

Before someone can say there is balance comparable similar skills should have the same in battle damage at the same stat level no one should be higher.




Giras Wolfe -> RE: The Game is balanced! (2/7/2013 21:58:09)

POSITIVE Balance Change: Nonvariums can compete

POSITIVE Balance Change: Level 30's actually have a shot at beating 35's if they're smart.

NEGATIVE Balance Change: Juggernaut is currently unplayable.

NEGATIVE Balance Change: In the current state of things, HP and defenses are simply too low allowing strength and support to rule. We need more ways to heal or get our health higher.



OmilliYo -> RE: The Game is balanced! (2/8/2013 0:14:45)

I think that hp is fine the way it is. No more agility :D, always disliked it. When I first saw the hp I was shocked, but then it made me modify my main build. I love my build, Level 4 focus ftw!!



Sir Xander -> RE: The Game is balanced! (2/8/2013 0:22:40)

Str builds are horrendous. Same with the bloody Meteor core. It does roughly 30 dmg no matter what every time.



Commander Cody 35 -> RE: The Game is balanced! (2/8/2013 2:18:41)

U need a good build be a tank I'm BH an I can easily counter the strength an support
Not as hard as u think



JDM -> RE: The Game is balanced! (2/8/2013 2:37:21)

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NEGATIVE Balance Change: In the current state of things, HP and defenses are simply too low allowing strength and support to rule. We need more ways to heal or get our health higher.


This^

Thats the only real complaint i have on Omega really, our defences do seem a bit low.. But anyways, im sure as more skill cores come out, battles will become quiet a bit more interesting.. And man, im loving how i can match my equipment now according to how i wanna look like since all of the weapons/armor are the same :D..



NEOCROM -> RE: The Game is balanced! (2/8/2013 2:39:34)

AHAHAHA, reading the 1st post made my day. How could you even say it's balanced? It's WAY less balanced than before. More OP at it's finest.



the final hour -> RE: The Game is balanced! (2/8/2013 2:43:16)

i laughed at this thread too . take a look at the omega feed back thread alot of people disagree with you.

this game has never seen balanced. and i agree if anything its worse then it was.



axiel -> RE: The Game is balanced! (2/8/2013 3:25:05)

This is easily the worst update created.. we waited all this time for this ? it's so bad i feel like quitting.. really
its so bad it hurts my brain -__- rewind everything back where it used to be in BETA! that was the best faze no doubt!!



Ranloth -> RE: The Game is balanced! (2/8/2013 3:33:18)

Flaming and ranting won't help fixing it, that's why Devs ask for constructive feedback so they know what to fix and how to fix (so they won't fix it but opposite to the way we want). Worst is also an overkill, only because of balance being all over the place? Is that worth saying WORST whilst there are many other features? Balance is ongoign, and patch is being released today to fix bugs + initial balance issues reported by US & they will make balance changes as they pop up through US, the players.

Also, Beta wasn't much better.



J.U.S.T.I.C.E. v2 -> RE: The Game is balanced! (2/8/2013 3:33:57)

My other account got banned...

Anyways, I do agree with some of you that Juggernaut needs a little tweaking same as a few of the skills tree "skills" however, apart from that the game is balanced - thank you angel. This is because builds counter each other, unlike delta and Gamma - Delta spam str and Gamma spam +5 focus.

They do need minor changes but not the ones like "nerf plasma bolt" etc.



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