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Dual Thrusters -> Cyber Hunter Massacre (2/17/2013 21:34:05)

Every other class gets some goodies after using their ultimate attack. Mercs and Mages steal rage+health. Bounties gain tons of health. Whereas with a cyber after using massacre you will be crippled with barely any energy left and probably half your health is gone too. Cybers need something to get back on their feet, because they will surely lose against other "ultimate attack builds" with their abilities to cripple you.




xPl0opyx -> RE: Cyber Hunter Massacre (2/17/2013 21:39:01)

no... massacre is already OP




Dual Thrusters -> RE: Cyber Hunter Massacre (2/17/2013 21:40:37)

EMP grenade: Problem Solved




xPl0opyx -> RE: Cyber Hunter Massacre (2/17/2013 21:42:03)

don't forget plasma armor...




lolo666 -> RE: Cyber Hunter Massacre (2/17/2013 21:46:57)

Ehm.. Dont forget if people will remove the MP by using their skills, they still got a skill to regenerate MP back which you can use in unlimited times.. Aka : Static Charge..




Dual Thrusters -> RE: Cyber Hunter Massacre (2/17/2013 21:53:10)

^totally depends on opponents res

anyway im just saying that cyber is probably the weakest class for an ultimate build(not cyber in general) because it dishes out damage at the cost of basically all your energy so if your opponent is still alive, you're probably screwed




rayniedays56 -> RE: Cyber Hunter Massacre (2/18/2013 1:25:57)

This is why massacre is so darned powerful./

It does more damage but is SUPPOSED to offer no more damage.



*glares at BH's*


Maybe if they nerfed the damage and added 20% HP regain *not affected by BL* it would be alright.




Mother1 -> RE: Cyber Hunter Massacre (2/18/2013 2:02:27)

@ raynie

I doubt it highly. Massacre was already nerfed just recently, and guess what it is still OP. Plus not that we have this new promo out anyone with it will use it to counter those players who use energy drains leaving them wide open.

Besides a 3 percent nerf to Massacre's HP gain for BH would only take away 1 hp at best or not make a difference at all.




rayniedays56 -> RE: Cyber Hunter Massacre (2/18/2013 2:11:16)

@mother 1

I was suggesting the nerf as to people whining about *CH's haz no benefit* and I was pointing out that since massacre does high damage, it is considered an extra benefit :)


However, nothing is implausible about nerfs/buffs in ED.

Just a difference of 1 HP, yes on the BH part, but this would also happen with CH's, where the extra 8-11 HP may be a game changer.


My thoughts?


Massacre changes to:

Level 1: 40%
Level 2: 50%
Level 3: 60%
Level 4: 70%
Level 5: 80%
Level 6: 90%
Level 7: 98%
Level 8: 106%
Level 9: 112%
Level 10: 118%

But now offers a 25% life steal, just 2% more than BL offers at max (1 HP?) but a nice 8-11 HP for CH's who would use massacre.

This will NOT stack with BL.







ED Prince of Shadows -> RE: Cyber Hunter Massacre (2/18/2013 9:14:22)

^But the BHs suffer a nerf with no buff, make it a fixed damage scale with rage steal:


Energy Required:
Level 1: 32
Level 2: 35
Level 3: 38
Level 4: 41
Level 5: 44
Level 6: 47
Level 7: 50
Level 8: 53
Level 9: 56
Level 10: 59
Weapon Required: Wrist blades
Stat Required: 24 Support (at lvl 1)
Level Required: 10
Improves With: Strength (+1 damage at 21 Strength; +1 damage per 4 Strength after)
Warm Up: 3
Cool Down: 3

This is just taken from the wiki for surgical strike, I made it scale a little faster with strength (+1 for every 4 points) because tech has better benefits overall. This way massacre won't get out of control in the higher levels and functions like the other ultimates.




Remorse -> RE: Cyber Hunter Massacre (2/18/2013 12:41:54)

At least you can use malfunction to buff the damage.


What about a blood mage's supercharge??

All they get is 7% (with max BL) life steal bonus and a small res ignore.


You should be thankful massacre is actually useful for CHs, how many blood mages do you see with supercharge?






ED Prince of Shadows -> RE: Cyber Hunter Massacre (2/19/2013 15:44:12)

^I saw a BM 5 focus tech abuse build that used SC well.




Hun Kingq -> RE: Cyber Hunter Massacre (2/19/2013 15:57:55)

An if you use an EMP that takes away 49 points of energy how well will that 5 focus Blood Mage will use that Super Charge well with no energy or not enough energy. Well tell us how well?




ED Prince of Shadows -> RE: Cyber Hunter Massacre (2/19/2013 16:07:50)

Generator? It's not like builds should be able to win against every other build.




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