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ThePriest -> Proposal for paid players. (3/2/2013 8:37:07)
Since many free players complaining about nerf etc.. So it feels about time we pay players complain back. I suggest epicduel should stop introducing it to be equal in pay and free players. I suggest epicduel doing so we pay players start getting stronger benefits again. I do not like to pay money. For any free players have copied a build. That gets the advantage on me just because he or she is in the right class. When balance is an illusion .... Then there will always be stronger player / class. Therefore I pay for to be able to make other unique builds and stay in the same class, While avoiding worry about being involved in free players who happen to be in the right class. By doing so they just copy the build that someone else has made. For right now it's like this. Update, Free players are complaining ... Epicduel change. Some paid player chooses to stop. Updating. Free players are complaining Epicduel change. Some paid player chooses to quit. etc. This whole system makes it more paid player chooses to quit. But it's still not too late .. Since I know that many paid player logs in right now, And hope that omega begins work out. But they will not be able to wait too long .... So here's the facts. When Omega opened as increased player base a lot. But now it starts getting low again ... Why?? When you pay real money for a game ... So usually stay longer than free players. When you have put in real money. But free player run his race. When he did not deposit real money, the risk that he can more easily stop playing. But right now, it is some kind of witch hunt on pay players. Feels that it is both free players but also from epicduel. Sorry to say this. But I do not care about free players anymore. Since most of them copy a build when their class gets a little OP. Complain when their class is not OP ... Complains of pay players and so on. I want to pay players to get the advantage again! Could be the type that we can hide our build from free players. Weapon becomes stronger and so on. Then free players complaining so much they want. When I stop caring about them right now .. They think only of themselves, so why should not we think of ourselves? Sorry for some free players who are my friends and so on. Would also support one idee that we pay players to send gifts, or game codes to free players who we think deserve it. But it costs a little varium. That way we can pay players giving back to the right people. If we want to. So in other words do you want to pay players to receive benefits again? In such case writing support and your game nick ... Since I do not trust the forums anymore with all the free players who scream nerf etc.. Support game nick The Priest Pay around 50-150 per month depending on the update and so on. Time to pay players put their foot down!

G4m3r -> RE: Proposal for paid players. (3/2/2013 8:39:13)
Are u mad bro?

Blitzex/Sr. Zeph -> RE: Proposal for paid players. (3/2/2013 8:47:52)
He has a point tho

Ranloth -> RE: Proposal for paid players. (3/2/2013 8:57:58)
Paid players won't have advantage, that era is over. This will not be changing back either, it was stated by Devs that purpose of Omega is to get rid off the gap. F2P players have too much say? You have as much but perhaps they are being more constructive rather than "I pay = I must be OP & you don't pay = quit the game". >.>

button33 -> RE: Proposal for paid players. (3/2/2013 9:06:32)
What point is there to paying when it can be free? And is it fair that anybody who plays is able to copy our build? What incentives are there to pay if everything is free? In Delta, we had to pay to get the best weapons and enhancements, and thus, varium was bought. In order to make people buy something, you have to make things appealing, and right now, varium isnt appealing.... Therefore, you really should give varium players an advantage, a slight one, so that people will actually pay. We dont need a 50 stat point gap anymore.... On every weapon, if you upgrade with varium, you should be able to get 2-3 extra stats. 8-12 extra stats wont ruin the game....

ThePriest -> RE: Proposal for paid players. (3/2/2013 9:15:35)
@Trans Oh you say that? That was why the gun and aux came out? Nope it's not over ... It was seen clearly on the promo package ... Free players give no money in your pocket .. It's all about real life. The developers of epicduel. Receive their salaries from pay players among others. But right now they are on to scare away the players who pay. I'm trying to save epicduel! Yeti tournament package. Was out on the market longer than expected. Why? For many paid player was angry and did not buy them only got back 30% of their varium but after a while they had calmed down and start buying. They new aux and gun ... why were they so called OP? Epicduel did they that way for more players would buy them. But then choose to nerf to free players complaining yes it was a misstak. Like honestly how much do you think we pay players will take? The next promo will swell at least as OP if not why should you buy it? And if the OP will you dare to buy it? Since free players complaining. So it becomes nerf .... Nah I hope epicduel wakes up .... Do not know what happened. Must have gotten new management or something like that in 2013 ...

lolo666 -> RE: Proposal for paid players. (3/2/2013 9:37:17)
This is 100% true that it's unfair for the people who payed But.. I have to disagree when you say they have no chance or a small chance in beating the f2p Look it in this prospective: During Delta and the past phases, a f2p can barely get a good record. I play as a f2p. I just got varium from a friend. So, when I got my varium, I was nearly dominating mostly ALL of the level 35 as a level 31. But when I haven't got varium, I barely got like a record which loses are like near to my wins. Varium has a good purpose and you can buy special weapons which cannot be bought by any other players. 1. Chairman Platinum. It's now rare. But! It is a free unblockable move which only the ones who played got. 2. Bionic Battlegear. It gives a free unblockable move! An Energy one. 3. The Pumpkin weapons (The mutating ones). They give an unblockable move! A physical one. 4. Frost weapons. Frost Effect 5. Azreal Weapons. Dont get me started on this one. THIS IS THE MOST OP OF ALL. A freaking FREE STUN LIKE EFFECT AND A FREAKING DEBUFF EFFECT. And There are more to talk about! So, I could not really say that varium people have a disadvantage or f2p's are unfair Varium people still got an advantage of the OP cores or the unavailable cores. If you are talking about the use of Varium on items, They are merely a shortcut to get the things you want. It's like getting dollars than earning pennies. ~The Deathgirl

Mother1 -> RE: Proposal for paid players. (3/2/2013 9:49:45)
Not supported in the least. It would defeat the whole purpose of what Omega is suppose to be which is an equal playing field for paying and free players. Just because varium doesn't give permanent battle advantages, doesn't mean it is worthless. Varium has always been a time saver since you could get things quickly where as free to play had to work for their advantage. Plus there are other in game luxuries that you can get with varium that you can't without it. Plus believe it or not Varium still does give a slight power advantage in battle which will be phase promos. Unlike the others these will still be varium exclusive and will not come out as seasonal rares ever.

ThePriest -> RE: Proposal for paid players. (3/2/2013 10:23:19)
To have balance between pay and free players. But it is unrealistic. It's like a dream. Are not many in the world who want people to starve and so on. But still we all sit with a computer and play here? Instead of giving money away to those who need them more. It is not because we are evil, but that's the way the world works. But guess that you are very young .. Lives at home with your parents. Or have not started working yet ... Epicduel is a business not a fantasy world. What makes this so it goes around is paid players. It's all about epicduel to get money. Why live in a house when you can live in a tent? Why drive an expensive car than take the bus? Why be the boss instead of each employee? This is how it works those who have money are higher up. in the real world. So if we can not do this on epicdul? So lose the purpose of paying ... Charity epicduel trying to do for free players. Is nice but nothing that a company will be able to live on. Even companies with charitable focus must somehow get the money for themselves. I am a player who pays to play EpicDuel. I do not pay to deal with any charity for free players .... I work hard in the real world .... I relax through playing here. For free players, and others who do not like to pay players to receive benefits. Maybe say that you will get a shock in real life then .. I just hope epicduel ends up with this circus. Before them, most players who still choose to pay gives up. If not, they will notice it when it's too late. And then it becomes difficult to save. Their salvation now lies in omega is so new. So they can change this charity .... So pay players possibly coming back ... For example if you're going to be hard. Free players complaining about us paying that we become OP? Pay players complain that we are not OP? If free players stop playing? Would epicduel survive longer than if paid players stop playing. I am absolutely convinced that epicduel will understand the problem. And to solve this as quickly as possible. Then it's all about money and no charity.

G4m3r -> RE: Proposal for paid players. (3/2/2013 10:34:07)
^Who cares about your money man? Don´t be egocentric or selfish. Do you want Epicduel to be like world of warcraft? If you play you need to pay? Don´t worry about the money ED makes. The devs can implement new apellative things that you cannot imagine. Even a useless feature like having wings or a cape,etc can be a source of money. player A- Wow, awesome cape! How did you got it? player B- Well, I bought it at that new Npc for 1,250 varium. player A (thinking)- Hmm, awesome, I need to get that thing, sorry money but I need to waste you now! 1 week later... player C- Awesome cape where did you got that? player A- bla bla bla bla varium player C- Gonna get it soon as possible!!! As you can see even a simple thing can be a source of money but I just ask to don´t be selfish bro.

Baron Dante -> RE: Proposal for paid players. (3/2/2013 10:42:55)
See, while the game now intends to close the gap greatly, it doesn't mean there is no gap. Hell, it can also mean that there will be gear for Varium players only (Like, Azrael), but those items aren't STRONGER than free stuff. It just allows more variety. But, to do something like that means they do need to make sure the balance doesn't entirely break due to them. Also, would this count as my first proposal? Gonna have to say "no" to it tho, I don't want to commit myself to such a serious relationship.

Ranloth -> RE: Proposal for paid players. (3/2/2013 10:46:38)
Let me ask you one thing: If Omega - supposedly - crippled their sales so much and will do, why are people still buying Varium (Omega + Azrael, many people have it)? Why do people keep playing + more people join? If change was to cripple the sales in the long run, why did it go through? It's not all about the money + don't think short-term since that's bad way to go in the business. Besides F2P deserve respect. EVERYONE who plays ED is potential customer so you cannot ignore them. If F2P gets crushed, what's the impression of the game? Pay-to-win? being forced to pay just so you can win? If they like it and feel like they need advantage (shortcut; not everyone have time to farm Credits OR unique core on items; Azrael), then they will buy Varium. Lastly, prior to Omega, why did people buy Varium? To get an edge over F2P. Apparently they are useless according to you, yet they were the sole reason players bought Varium. Varium player fighting another Varium player means that there's no advantage (back then). Now, it's the same. Unless you have a lot of time to farm these Credits, Varium still comes very handy with the difference - it lasts for longer thus the incentive to buy it is also higher because you get what you pay for rather than wasting it very quickly and being forced to buy more when you don't want to.

ThePriest -> RE: Proposal for paid players. (3/2/2013 10:47:42)
@G4m3r All I can say is that I work in marketing and sales. And in my opinion, Will epicduel be forced to change the actions directed. Existing survival purposes .. The next promo will be just as OP. Otherwise, no point to buy it? The question is, dare they nerf it? The more they nerf the things that cost $ 50 less chance of buying again. We shall see who is right. Keep track of epicduel, you should see that when it starts to itch in the pocket of them. Will they change this charity .. 100%

Scyze -> RE: Proposal for paid players. (3/2/2013 11:01:49)
Okay, I am copying Trans. (color) Its not the F2P players' fault if builds get changed. Its the people who abuse the class' stats and the staff have to react. EpicDuel really wasn't pay to win. If you had a lot of Credits, you could've enhanced your items to it's max slots. It might not be enough but if you invest money, you get better opportunities. Yeah yeah yeah, I've paid a lot on EpicDuel's weapons, I still care about F2P players since they haven't had much chance to have fun. Why is it always people who pay wanting better things? I sometimes want better things but most people whine. There is no point really to buy Varium since you can just use Credits. If you're someone who's got millions of Credits, you don't ever have to buy Varium. If there's a promotional weapon, buy it next year. If you're frustrated then you should've never bought Varium. Its your fault for choosing to buy it without thinking about the future that clearly. There's people like Mother1 who just repeat what the Developers say...[8\|]

Practel -> RE: Proposal for paid players. (3/2/2013 11:02:51)
One of the points of Omega was to allow the same footing for Varium and F2P players. Varium is no longer an advantage over free players, but rather a faster way to get weapons, armors, cores, and progression. Since this is a financial discussion I'm going to have to lock this. ~Practel

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