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J.U.S.T.I.C.E. -> BH Buff OP (3/2/2013 14:16:35)
I know I can't play, but I have done my research! Yes I am a BH and Yes I know your wondering "how does he know this?" The BH's Bloodlust had become a little too good in my opinion. What about you though? What do you think? Discuss!

Calogero -> RE: BH Buff OP (3/2/2013 14:22:11)
BloodLust buff was not needed... You only need 6 on BloodLust to get the same effect as before the update, which required a lvl 10 back then. the Difference between the lvl 6 and lvl 10 is about 2 - 3 health... So yea those 4 skill points can be used somewhere else...

ThePriest -> RE: BH Buff OP (3/2/2013 14:24:22)
Completely unbalanced,,, BH strongest then I would say CH. Before this update, it was more balanced. Merc ran hard on 2vs2 with his support. Tech Mage and CH ran hard on his support on 1vs1. = 3 classes was very good there. Now there are two classes that are good. So do not understand why people are happy? Dare I complain more? Yup I do :) I just became a free player and we have VIP!!! (ThePriest get a warning and them remove the post.) [:-]

J.U.S.T.I.C.E. -> RE: BH Buff OP (3/2/2013 14:26:20)
Priest I and you are like one [This post will get deleted LOL]

Blitzex/Sr. Zeph -> RE: BH Buff OP (3/2/2013 14:26:24)
Dont agree, bh and bm were terrible before this buff. Did you ever see a good BM or BH before friday?? Only in 2vs2, for 1vs1 it was a terrible class. This is the buff it needed!

Calogero -> RE: BH Buff OP (3/2/2013 14:28:55)
I am a BloodMage... been a BloodMage for years. This Buff was Not needed. If you wanted to Buff BM and BH Make Resistance scaling go up again and scale Defences to that... All in All, I did a lot better in Delta than I'm doing now

IsaiahtheMage -> RE: BH Buff OP (3/2/2013 14:30:53)
You make a good point, I've been running into Blood Mages with 120+ HP, 85+ str, with lvl 6 blood lust, max bludgeon, max field medic, and remaining points in deadly aim. They usually have the Azraels Will Gun too so that makes it worst because they force you too strike.

Blitzex/Sr. Zeph -> RE: BH Buff OP (3/2/2013 14:35:05)
quote: All in All, I did a lot better in Delta than I'm doing now Every single varium player did -.- quote: Make Resistance scaling go up again and scale Defences to that. This will OP tank builds even more since str and sup both got nerfed alot

Calogero -> RE: BH Buff OP (3/2/2013 14:38:54)
quote: This will OP tank builds even more since str and sup both got nerfed alot This would weaken SPAM builds a bit due to how much damage they can unleash for little energy cost

Blitzex/Sr. Zeph -> RE: BH Buff OP (3/2/2013 14:46:32)
quote: This would weaken SPAM builds a bit due to how much damage they can unleash for little energy cost It would weaken spam builds, but would buff every other build there exists

Exploding Penguin -> RE: BH Buff OP (3/2/2013 14:49:34)
Fireball and blood lust got buffed, as well as the fact that strike damage was reduced (which actually means a slight buff in terms of usefulness of fireball), so now strength BM is back to being fairly strong. Also, you only need level 6 blood lust to get the previous blood lust's max HP drain effect. BHs were amazing before this before when they were focus, and now they're even more overpowered. The fact that they can stack a debuff with a high HP-recovering passive based off of damage is too much, so I'm thinking that blood lust needs to either be returned to its original value, or that smoke should be nerfed.

IsaiahtheMage -> RE: BH Buff OP (3/2/2013 14:51:04)
The technology nerf was unnecessary, I saw no one complaining about their being a problem with tech other then the Tech/Support Mages. But since Support has been nerfed, malf has been nerfed, and plasma bolt has been nerfed. I no longer see the problem.

Yo son -> RE: BH Buff OP (3/2/2013 14:56:15)
stop complaining already!

Blitzex/Sr. Zeph -> RE: BH Buff OP (3/2/2013 14:58:10)
quote: or that smoke should be nerfed. Its exactly the same as malf... Its just the combo of smoke-bl If a class had malf-bl then it would be the same -.-

Exploding Penguin -> RE: BH Buff OP (3/2/2013 15:01:33)
Dex is a superior stat to tech, especially considering the recent tech nerf. Block stacks with shadow, negates 100% of blocakble attacks, cap is an absurdly high rate of 35%, and dex scales insanely fast with block chance.

kosmo -> RE: BH Buff OP (3/2/2013 15:02:57)
It s not he bh to be op, it s the deflections and expecially the blocks that are just too many, maby if they introduce cores to apply on each wep that reduce your chance to block/deflect the problem would be solved.

Exploding Penguin -> RE: BH Buff OP (3/2/2013 15:09:55)
I think they should just remove ALL the luck-based passive cores which are always available (not the ones on promos, just the ones anyone can get at any time), and fix up shadow arts to actually be something that doesn't judge the winner of the fight based off of luck. I would also be quite satisfied if max block chance was lowered to 25% like deflection is.

beastmo -> RE: BH Buff OP (3/2/2013 15:12:33)
The game is getting worse and worse each update all cause of complainers like you. And you wonder why the staff always make a OPed class or nerf a class. Its cause of complainers like yourself and others above. Epicduel will never find balance with complainers.

IsaiahtheMage -> RE: BH Buff OP (3/2/2013 15:19:19)
@Penguin Remove all luck-based passive cores? For real? What do you expect for them to put in place of them? Luck in this game is OP, that's true, but a game completely devoid of luck is a boring one. If every single battle went exactly according to plan it wouldn't be much fun.

Blitzex/Sr. Zeph -> RE: BH Buff OP (3/2/2013 15:21:59)
^ Agreed

NDB -> RE: BH Buff OP (3/3/2013 1:08:14)
^ Just no. Those skill cores are jacked up.

Giras Wolfe -> RE: BH Buff OP (3/3/2013 1:15:19)
I've yet to see any evidence of this in my dueling.

zer00x -> RE: BH Buff OP (3/3/2013 18:11:02)
A bh healed 18 using IA... its ridiculous they basically get a heal without energy

ReinVI -> RE: BH Buff OP (3/3/2013 18:32:40)
@ Zer00x ok.. so it's op that they healed 18 hp on a bot that's special you have to wait 6+ turns to even think of doing enough damage to regain that much hp? maybe if builds had better defenses then they wouldn't do as much damage and consequently BH would not regain as much health hm?

Mother1 -> RE: BH Buff OP (3/3/2013 19:07:12)
@ penguin Then that would also mean massive strike, mark of azreal, and lucky strike would be going as well since these also work with luck. They would also have to refund everyone's money who brought those items as well.

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