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The Astral Fury -> 5 Focus All Around? (3/15/2013 14:56:27)

Hello my fellow Epic Duelist's!

I posted this thread for us to discuss the growth and frequent appearence of 5 focus/tank builds as it seems as stated before they are coming alot more frequent. After the many nerfs to STR and other factors it seems these builds are very popular, however are they decreasing the variety of other builds? It seems every time I enter a match I'm always facing a 5 focus tank and I for one have no issues regarding this, but must ask you are you tired of facing these types of builds. They are great builds and balanced to say the least, but frankly it seems everyone is using them and it starts to get boring after fighting them for a long period of time not to mention this battles also take long too.


But enough of me rambling the point of post is to discuss and ask are 5 focus/tank builds alot mroe frequent than usual?




superbat67 -> RE: 5 Focus All Around? (3/15/2013 15:12:08)

5 focus are just the best builds around. especially for bounty hunters. I have a 4 focus build but its still pretty good and i can beat varium users most of the time that dont have azrael's gear or are support strength abusers. I dont even have a robot but im still have a decent non-varium build.




Digital X -> RE: 5 Focus All Around? (3/15/2013 15:12:45)

I am seeing them a little more frequently, probably due to the fact they have a good "all around" attack damage type and moderate shield defenses, where-as a STR or SUPP abuser would highly excel at one, maybe two attacks (aux and artillery) or str (double strike, beserker). With a 5 focus even though the damage is not heavily based on one type of damage the str and supp of that is higher TOGETHER than just ONE of the stat abusers, which is why it may be a favourite, and why it is mine.




Ranloth -> RE: 5 Focus All Around? (3/15/2013 15:19:42)

Look at it in this way: if you go Dex or Tech build, you're likely to rely on skills that improve with it therefore your build is also binded to the Energy available. Those without Reroute or good SC will suffer on it because Generator won't cut. BloodLust allows to go around it but you will rely on damage instead. Meanwhile, Strength and Support offer damage every turn or ever 3 turns, coming from weapons and skills alike so you don't have to rely on Energy as much. Lastly comes a mix of both which is usually Focus 5 build, where you can go tank-lean or offensive-lean (tank = Dex/Tech, offensive = Str/Support) whilst having Bot to deal decent damage on top of it.

Yes, variety is 'limited' but not really. Some builds just won't work if you focus on, say, two stats such as Dex and Support because you're likely gonna need Energy to use skills. Aux alone (Support) won't give you good damage in battle so you need another source of damage. And as I've said, those with Reroute will find it easier with Dex/Tech builds that don't rely on weapon damage as much. Those without can do so but they have to find some balance between offence and defence so they won't suffer.

Overall, it's the same as it was before. Whilst everyone may be Focus 5, that doesn't mean they use the same builds and items. There are cores that make it different, variety of Bots depending on one's strategy (Mercs may find Assault Bot the best one, or maybe Bio Borg. Who knows.) whilst others may want pure damage (BHs and BMs may due to BloodLust giving HP back). Treat Focus 5 as 'jack of all trades, master of nothing' build, because that's what they are. They are balanced in every area but don't necessarily specialise in it (such as Support/Strength or Dex/Tech builds; focusing on 2 stats mainly).




The Astral Fury -> RE: 5 Focus All Around? (3/15/2013 15:24:58)

^Good point Trans.




Master Smasher -> RE: 5 Focus All Around? (3/15/2013 17:07:30)

I have to try 5 focus builds




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