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Stabilis -> About Focus Builds (3/16/2013 15:41:06)

Some have said that Focus stats are the ultimate setup balance-wise and diversity-wise. That everyone should use them because you can use all of your skills to a degree that you would rank acceptable. But then what is the point of allotting stats? This is not a fascist game, I can allot stats anyway I so choose and still be able to handle some players terribly yet handle others wondrously. So what is the point of thinking everyone should allocate 100 stat points (25 + 25 + 25 + 25) to 4 stats and have a remainder of 36 points excluding items? Skill points are exclusive of stat points but stat points do positively effect skills though not each skill. Your idealism is having balanced skills but that is not up to the player that is up to the maker of the skill. So is Focus really the ultimate build or is this all just a delusion of opinion?



The Astral Fury -> RE: About Focus Builds (3/16/2013 15:49:06)

Everyone is using a focus build now after the nerfs of str and such it's all the same tanky focus builds no variety.



theholyfighter -> RE: About Focus Builds (3/17/2013 1:05:06)

An opinion.

However, I use focus builds because other builds are nerfed to the underground.......................



RageSoul -> RE: About Focus Builds (3/17/2013 1:54:12)

The weird thing is that when Rabble said 4 HP = 1 DEF/RES and letting them be 2 HP/1 Stat Point is OPed . I find it untrue because if i removed 4 points from DEX , and put them to HP , i would still receive the same result or worse , easier-to-die builds .

DEX got nerfed multiple times because of luck-based Skill Cores and unblockable damage Cores . Also , it still has slow progression.
TECH got nerfed in terms of luck because of luck-based Skill Cores . Then it was made to be similar to DEX in terms of progression.
STR got a much needed fix , except because luck is pretty crazy and OPed , this one is balanced now and not much of a threat .
SUPP got nerfed , okay it's fine , but then some SUPP-based skills got stupid nerfs even though they don't really need a nerf .
Energy got nerfed for skill-spam reasons , but did that stop people from spamming nearly 100+ EP ? Well not much of a problem if you're using EMP or Atom Smasher , except when luck rears its ugly side , then that's the time it's dangerous .
Health got a nerf because of a reason that i mentioned earlier that isn't very valid .

Focus remained the same because 1) it gives a fixed +30 to bot damage and 2) Focus build users don't really use much EP to be effective , which is pretty weird that other people say it's UPed even though it isn't . Seems like it because OFFENSIVE is still > than DEFENSIVE.

Overall , i blame both sides ( Balance Team(?) and Players ) .


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So is Focus really the ultimate build or is this all just a delusion of opinion?

Originally , no . But because HP is pretty UP , then most likely it's viewed as "ultimate". Used to be a decent yet fun to use , but now it isn't



TRizZzCENTRINO -> RE: About Focus Builds (3/17/2013 2:52:21)

5 focus build provides the player with a wider play-field since all items equipped on you can be used unlike some stat abuse builds that only relies on their Aux or primary weapon, you can also max or use every skill on your skill tree without being restricted by stat requirements, thus giving us a lot of diversity in builds and options, also with the new stat allocation system in omega, you can make a 5 focus support/dex/tech/strength build, that's the reason why i like focus builds, i never liked stat abusers who sometimes can end the match in a couple of rounds.



kaiseryeux21 -> RE: About Focus Builds (3/17/2013 5:48:42)

been using 5 focus bm since omega and i can say its doing pretty well for me. in addition, some players think that you are wiser because you can use every available weapon on your equipped items.

i cannot say its OP, but it really gives you more reason to stay longer in a battle which can lead to a win if coupled with a bit of luck (crits, deflects and blocks). The longer the battle is, the more chances a focus build can win it. as simple as that.



Mondez -> RE: About Focus Builds (3/17/2013 18:28:48)

I've met some players who don't seem to like the idea of Focus builds and if I win of course the rhetorical "noob" and "you got lucky" comes into play, but overall the reason why I use focus builds is the balance on my defense so I don't have to worry of sacrificing a stat when balancing them is the key. Plus I like having my bots do some damage because it's fun. [sm=zorb_smilie.gif]



Sageofpeace -> RE: About Focus Builds (3/17/2013 18:36:06)

well MOST of the player that post on the forum feel like if you don't have a 5 focus build is inappropriate and you are a STAT ABUSER



Mondez -> RE: About Focus Builds (3/17/2013 18:40:49)

@sageofpeace
I don't really see the problem on abusing a stat unless it breaks the balance in the game like what happened with support. Honestly I tried out a full on Dex BH and my goodness I loved it though the damage input really made things complicated.



Sageofpeace -> RE: About Focus Builds (3/17/2013 18:43:55)

^ if you read my post carefully you notice that i feel that way too but clearly a lot PLAYER that spend most of the time on the forum DON'T. everybody is entitle to spend their point in whatever they f** wanted and if the build become a Huge problem for more them 50% of player yes it should be NERF not to the point where it make class useless like mercenary are right, literally all of them are USING 5 FOCUS



Mondez -> RE: About Focus Builds (3/17/2013 18:47:46)

@sageofpeace
I can see where you are coming from and I do notice that once something is considered OP in terms of stat abusing, it becomes a literal witch hunt on nerfing the skills connected to the stat abuse.

Though on some cases I approve on some of the nerfs, but there are nerfs that I disagree on during the balance updates.



Demon Emperor -> RE: About Focus Builds (3/17/2013 20:13:37)

I used a dex build without focus for a week, and it worked pretty well despite needing some luck to win. Most battles where I didnt get either a stun from overload, a block, a deflect, or a crit I lost.:/ I got tired of that and went to a plasma cannon build. It didn't work, so I added 4-F and android to it, and now its working great.

So, I would say that unless your abusing something else thats OP (which right now is basically just supp mercs and TM casters) your build needs focus to be effective. Its a bit of a build creativity problem.



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