5 focus boynty+smoke THAT SMOKE

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santonik -> 5 focus boynty+smoke THAT SMOKE (3/17/2013 9:27:45)
5 focus build normally (ultimate) smoke. That take out enemys defence. Normally (about) -45 dex. Those smoke making supermega hits after that smoke+plus healing them (bloodlust). Bloodlust is ok now but that smoke is huge broplem. Smoke take too much defence out and making super strong hits to boyntyhunters and heal same time (bloodlst). Tech buffing smoke a lot. Can that smoke nerf littlebit?.

theholyfighter -> RE: 5 focus boynty+smoke THAT SMOKE (3/17/2013 9:29:39)
Use a shield.

Midnightsoul -> RE: 5 focus boynty+smoke THAT SMOKE (3/17/2013 10:59:49)
The reason this is a problem is because offenses are barely effective now. Since tanking is now popular, this indirectly makes a BHs smoke really strong since tech is part of tanking. I think smoke, intimidate, and malf still need to scale more slowly per skill lvl. Like from lvls 1-6, it should take only 2 stat points, then just 1 afterward. It will make low debuffs about just as effective, but not as effective when they're high. This can be compensated by lowering the energy cost by 2.

ansh0 -> RE: 5 focus boynty+smoke THAT SMOKE (3/17/2013 11:55:51)
Smoke should be weaker than other debuffs due to the synergy with bloodlust.

ReinVI -> RE: 5 focus boynty+smoke THAT SMOKE (3/17/2013 12:10:05)
what about malfs synergy with support? ( auxillary damage ) or intimidates synergy with BL ( on bm ) and various different things >.>

ansh0 -> RE: 5 focus boynty+smoke THAT SMOKE (3/17/2013 12:11:01)
Neither of those are as strong as smoke and BL. Also, BL is a passive.

zer00x -> RE: 5 focus boynty+smoke THAT SMOKE (3/17/2013 13:53:07)
quote: Use a shield Yeah yeah, what about mercenaries

Mother1 -> RE: 5 focus boynty+smoke THAT SMOKE (3/17/2013 14:07:03)
Smoke only takes that much out if they are spamming technology since that is what it improves with. Plus unlike Support technology can be nerfed by the skills of TM and CH as well as omega override. For those who can't nerf tech use your shields, an assault bot, or energy drains to counter this.

santonik -> RE: 5 focus boynty+smoke THAT SMOKE (3/17/2013 15:56:41)
Yes im playing merc and i noticed assault bot special is weak. Take away 65% debuff and cost 1 turn. Still 35% debuff works. That is BIG broplem merc. Others class can take more defence. hhhmm... tactical merc can take more only energy defence more. but mercenary cant do anything. Only bot (assault)

Mother1 -> RE: 5 focus boynty+smoke THAT SMOKE (3/17/2013 16:06:39)
@ santonic well they nerfed the assault bot because it made debuffs worthless. they wanted to make debuffs actually worth using.Plus even with the assault bot removing 65% of the debuff your hybrid armor covers what is left. So unless you have either low defenses, or aren't using hybrid armor then when you have that many problems even as a merc since removing 65% of a 45 smoke will only leave 16 left of that smoke.

santonik -> RE: 5 focus boynty+smoke THAT SMOKE (3/17/2013 17:56:02)
hhhmmm.... i use bot i lose 1 turn enemy gain almoust free turn. i have still drop 16 dex that mean i can hit. enemy at all. BLOCK... block......BLOCK. yep i remember shadow art +smoke is too often block. still i have littlebit weakier defence i accept that but that -45 dex Whitout Bot(assault) im totatlly defenceless. need 1-2 critical to beat enemy. otherways lose.

Onlythestrong -> RE: 5 focus boynty+smoke THAT SMOKE (3/17/2013 17:57:02)
i really dont found them op.

NDB -> RE: 5 focus boynty+smoke THAT SMOKE (3/17/2013 17:58:16)
One question. What kind of BH has a -45 smoke screen and is still sane? I would say that is like a max Smoke Screen. Either that or they pretty much only trained on Tech............

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