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kosmo -> RE: =ED= April 9, 2013 - Arborgeddon on the Horizon (4/19/2013 18:04:11)

Ysss bot will be in game.I m laughing at some of you right now ;D



frogbones -> RE: =ED= April 9, 2013 - Arborgeddon on the Horizon (4/19/2013 18:11:42)

I'm lumping all focus builds in the same boat because that's where they belong. You know, the S.S. Boring.

Or was it the S.S. Can't Think For Myself?

Oh wait. Actually, it was the S.S. Automaton.

Don't be a 5 focus apologist.

It only makes you sound uneducated.



kosmo -> RE: =ED= April 9, 2013 - Arborgeddon on the Horizon (4/19/2013 18:16:07)

lol



goldslayer1 -> RE: =ED= April 9, 2013 - Arborgeddon on the Horizon (4/19/2013 18:18:26)

@frogbones
great, more tanking in the game for heal looping infernal android mercs.
or BHs.

people can use the "wasting a turn" excuse
but if my robot, heal/aux/gun are in cooldown and i have no strong attacks available, then i use the core.

same for caster tech mages.

theres a period in battle where plasma bolt, aux, assimilation, or field medic aren't available. i can use it then.



Mother1 -> RE: =ED= April 9, 2013 - Arborgeddon on the Horizon (4/19/2013 18:18:56)

@ frogbones

I am only ask you that because there are people who used focus builds before they were the dominating build and continued to use them whether they were popular or not yet you make it sound like those people are mindless zombies because they are using something they actually liked. That was my point I was bringing up.



goldslayer1 -> RE: =ED= April 9, 2013 - Arborgeddon on the Horizon (4/19/2013 18:21:19)

@mother1
i used max SS IA TLM, 98% build back in delta when no one else used it.
started using it in omega and people copied it.

now im a caster mage.
i switched because i didn't wanna be a part of the sheep herd and be bored.



kosmo -> RE: =ED= April 9, 2013 - Arborgeddon on the Horizon (4/19/2013 18:46:44)

^TM at his best still use a focus build like evry other class.Most of players prefer focus for obious reason (apart from it to be overpowered) it is the only way to use a good tank build (apart from caster tm)



goldslayer1 -> RE: =ED= April 9, 2013 - Arborgeddon on the Horizon (4/19/2013 18:49:17)

@kosmo
Caster tech mage > 5 Focus tech mage.

i have gotten 87%-90% with caster tech mage (although in small volume, still pretty high %)



kosmo -> RE: =ED= April 9, 2013 - Arborgeddon on the Horizon (4/19/2013 18:57:12)

Not if people uses good well timed emp.Then you just can t win.The win % doesnt always say the truth on power: some builds have high win rate just because most of players dont use emp ( a skill that needs more knowlage to be used propely).



Ranloth -> RE: =ED= April 9, 2013 - Arborgeddon on the Horizon (4/19/2013 19:01:03)

Not enough players using EMP is better than the old CH EMP-looping era. <.<



goldslayer1 -> RE: =ED= April 9, 2013 - Arborgeddon on the Horizon (4/19/2013 19:01:09)

@kosmo
i sometimes get EMPed (not low EMPs either) twice and still win.
and a 2nd EMP only happens if i let it get to that.

its all on how you use your build.



kosmo -> RE: =ED= April 9, 2013 - Arborgeddon on the Horizon (4/19/2013 19:10:27)

I never emp twice it resoult a suicide in most of the cases but if i use it at the right moment and keep my dmg high (with the sure 1st turn) even the best casters can t do much.



goldslayer1 -> RE: =ED= April 9, 2013 - Arborgeddon on the Horizon (4/19/2013 19:11:45)

@kosmo
if ur going to wait anymore than 3 turns to use ur EMP, ur gonna have a hard time with energy later as i have 3 energy drainers.

but to give u a perspective on my build.

lvl 2 plasma bolt does 70 damage. (pretty much guaranteed 50+ on rage)
super charge will also hit in the 50s

i have lvl 8 assimilation (takes 15 energy)
frostbite core, and energy shot.



kosmo -> RE: =ED= April 9, 2013 - Arborgeddon on the Horizon (4/19/2013 19:15:52)

well timed for me it s ofcourse before the supercharge and possibly after ur assimilation.



Mother1 -> RE: =ED= April 9, 2013 - Arborgeddon on the Horizon (4/19/2013 19:19:28)

I have to agree with goldslayer about focus 5 TM < caster TM. I used a focus 5 TM for the longest, and whenever I have to battle a caster TM on my level I have always been at a disadvantage. While I can beat them it is extreme hard for me to do so with or without luck, but at the same time having a build that my build has trouble against is a good thing IMO since that is an actual sign of balance with builds.



Master Smasher -> RE: =ED= April 9, 2013 - Arborgeddon on the Horizon (4/19/2013 19:19:51)

quote:

well timed for me it s ofcourse before the supercharge and possibly after ur assimilation.

you have no idea how often assimilation mages will just swoop your mana and take it, even emp grenade is useless, the fact that plasmabolt takes such a low level with high tech to inflict 70+ damage is amazing, and it's every 2 turns as well, so it's a no brainer that tech mages will have time to rage it



goldslayer1 -> RE: =ED= April 9, 2013 - Arborgeddon on the Horizon (4/19/2013 19:22:38)

@kosmo
if its right before my super charge, then i will probably have rage after that. in which plasma bolt would most likely be cooled down.

my assimilation alone can cover my plasma bolt. after its used.

and for me atleast, i have not lost to many sword tlms/mercs.
and barely (if any) lost to BMs.



kosmo -> RE: =ED= April 9, 2013 - Arborgeddon on the Horizon (4/19/2013 19:28:19)

Since long time between 2 tech mages the one having the lowest tech is in serious disvantage but when facing other focus builds the assimilation, while u worm up the dmg of ur IA and use the bolt high, focus is deadly.
If u win better on bm and sword tlm/mercs it is ofcourse because these are the ones that cant emp.



ReconnaisX -> RE: =ED= April 9, 2013 - Arborgeddon on the Horizon (4/19/2013 19:29:56)

From Charfade's Twitter:
quote:

"Also the Epic Egg Hunt is winding down! Hurry and turn in those Epic Egg Hunt Missions and collect the Egg Head Achievement!"


Oh no, I only have 41 eggs in all, 30 turned in.



goldslayer1 -> RE: =ED= April 9, 2013 - Arborgeddon on the Horizon (4/19/2013 19:31:17)

@kosmo
my IA already deals about 34 damage with 0 focus on my caster mage.
if i cant rage plasma bolt, im raging IA.



Mother1 -> RE: =ED= April 9, 2013 - Arborgeddon on the Horizon (4/19/2013 19:34:06)

# goldslayer

The fact that the infernal android's laser can do more then100% damage after 4 turns, and the fact that you are using a caster TM (which has High tech which most caster TM's usually have) along with the fact that you are using the laser with rage which ignores 45% of defenses would add up to the infernal android even with 0 focus packing somewhat more of a punch then the other bots when used with rage.



kosmo -> RE: =ED= April 9, 2013 - Arborgeddon on the Horizon (4/19/2013 19:35:30)

When I emp 46 u can only rage a very low lvl bolt and if you are using arzels i m just healing up before you use it.



goldslayer1 -> RE: =ED= April 9, 2013 - Arborgeddon on the Horizon (4/19/2013 19:39:05)

@kosmo
u probably only have a 1 time use on that EMP then.

most people who use EMP twice have low lvls ones. not high lvl ones.

in any case, my energy configuration is set up so i can use super charge in 4th, and rage bolt on 5th. even if im not attacked after super charge.
so it can make for some fast battles vs the inexperienced players



kosmo -> RE: =ED= April 9, 2013 - Arborgeddon on the Horizon (4/19/2013 19:47:38)

the problem is that if u fit the caster build to resist emps, when they do u sometimes end up not killing them with bolts.

Caster mage is the best non-focus build , but tm 5 focus build still slightly better to me.



Trae -> RE: =ED= April 9, 2013 - Arborgeddon on the Horizon (4/19/2013 19:57:47)

i am going to be awesome buying the new promo so ill have the new amour azreal gear and omega weps
ps i do work and earn money not just a spoiled kid



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