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Midnightsoul -> Energy Drainers and how block is a negative impact (4/26/2013 18:20:13)

Well, guys, I think I have an idea of how to make this fair.

EMP grenade=deflectable so basically 85% of it's effect can be prevented

Assimilation=blockable, but its effect also needs to be 85% reduced

Atom Smasher=blockable, but its effect needs to be 85% reduced



Xendran -> RE: Energy Drainers and how block is a negative impact (4/26/2013 18:34:00)

EMP shouldn't even exist in its current state, it's completely broken. It needs a massive reworking, or a new cost analysis done on it to determine an appropriate cost.



Midnightsoul -> RE: Energy Drainers and how block is a negative impact (4/26/2013 18:44:45)

^Well, the suggestion I made I think can make it better.



xGreen Warriorx -> RE: Energy Drainers and how block is a negative impact (4/26/2013 19:46:10)

I don't think its a good idea to make EMP deflectable. Making it a gamble whether it takes the energy you want or not has too much luck involved, and OP caster TMs would be deflecting it a lot, and its one of a few good counters for them.

I think the solution is to make EMP require dexterity and increase its energy cost, so you have to invest more in it.



Midnightsoul -> RE: Energy Drainers and how block is a negative impact (4/26/2013 20:05:06)

@xGreenWarriorx

Yeah, you're right about that. I think your solution might be better actually.



Mother1 -> RE: Energy Drainers and how block is a negative impact (4/26/2013 20:12:10)

Assimilation just got another nerf, but the problem with your idea is that Assimilation doesn't work with percents like Atom Smasher does. It works with fixed numbers that goes through as long as it connects. The same could be said of any move that has a secondary effect that goes through if you do damage (the effect activating) SO this move would have to be based off of a percent for this idea to work.



Midnightsoul -> RE: Energy Drainers and how block is a negative impact (4/26/2013 20:43:43)

^you don't have to.
think about when attacks get blocked and stuff like that. they're not percents either.
I'm pretty sure it's possible to make energy regen also be effected by percents too.



Mother1 -> RE: Energy Drainers and how block is a negative impact (4/26/2013 21:29:11)

@ midnight

Atom smasher already works the way you suggested it should. I used it on a dex TM and he blocked it only removing 4 energy.



Midnightsoul -> RE: Energy Drainers and how block is a negative impact (4/27/2013 3:15:09)

@mother
Oh, that's quite relieving to hear. Thanks.



Sensei Chan -> RE: Energy Drainers and how block is a negative impact (4/27/2013 7:19:07)

True Emp Grenade Needs A Nerf
Supported!



Blitzex/Sr. Zeph -> RE: Energy Drainers and how block is a negative impact (4/27/2013 7:25:30)

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deflectable so basically 85% of it's effect can be prevented

You must be joking, right?

1. Deflects only prevent 50%, no where near 85%.
2. It would make the skill pointless.

I would rather choose for, as xendran mentioned, a complete reworking.



STRUT MY MUTT -> RE: Energy Drainers and how block is a negative impact (4/27/2013 9:30:09)

Sorry not supported. Adding more luck to the game is never good way to fix anything.

If you want more balance, make Atom Smasher unblockable to put it more in line with emp grenade and assimilation.







EpicIsEpic -> RE: Energy Drainers and how block is a negative impact (4/27/2013 10:43:25)

Supported the nerf for compleatly broken EMP grenade
If it cant be deflected nor blocked it's Energy remooval shuld be a way less.



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