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Jmagician -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 119 - READ THE FIRST POST (4/30/2013 22:37:22)

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You don't have to say. Everyone is also aware of that and they are looking forward to CC.

You don't even know how misleading Nulgath can be. Either misleading or he cruelly modifies a release in the worst way possible. Not saying I don't trust him but I had super high hopes for an Xboost release, just saying.



Megadragonknight -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 119 - READ THE FIRST POST (4/30/2013 22:37:27)

@Labyth
That's where the limitation must step in.



kise2 -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 119 - READ THE FIRST POST (4/30/2013 22:38:32)

@Labyth

I just really hope that not every single person puts iron hide in their deck but I feel it coming.



Labyth -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 119 - READ THE FIRST POST (4/30/2013 22:39:18)

@Mega not sure if you noticed but our hope of limitiation ended already....Let me tell you CC hasn't be released and their is already a character with 4 sacrifices .......yeah not sure plan Limitiation is gonna work.

@below speculation none all I do is state the facts
fact 1 sg player who can will buy as many deck until they get the cards they want.
fact 2 people will take advantage of what they can before htye are stoppend
fact 3 I am eating ice cream
fact 4 no matter how you look it the 1st month of the CC released will be chaos.
fact 5 we have no info on how CC will work but we know what it need what it will do and how people will react and also how it will be work and how the profit will be made.



Megadragonknight -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 119 - READ THE FIRST POST (4/30/2013 22:41:24)

@Jmagician and Laybth
I guess its better not to speculate anything before CC is release.



ND Mallet -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 119 - READ THE FIRST POST (4/30/2013 22:41:36)

@labyth You can't really abuse Sacrifice since it's the only card in the game that can kill you from overuse. Sure, it costs no energy, but the health you lose from it isn't going to allow you to build an entire strategy on it(except at lower levels).



Jmagician -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 119 - READ THE FIRST POST (4/30/2013 22:41:49)

There won't be much of a restriction with the weaker cards but more the better cards. 4 Sacrifices will take a toll on someone where 4 Iron Hides or 4 Fire Balls will not so it is easy to distinguish wish of these will have limitations. I can surely trust Nulgath in this regard.

Anyways, got to go sleep now :(

Bye folks!



Combat dummy -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 119 - READ THE FIRST POST (4/30/2013 22:42:57)

@Clinton: Flash Crashed Yo.... Rematch?!



kise2 -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 119 - READ THE FIRST POST (4/30/2013 22:45:06)

The Big day is tomorrow. Then I can finally finish leveling my Taurus and start leveling Quaztk to 20.



Labyth -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 119 - READ THE FIRST POST (4/30/2013 22:46:19)

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fact 1 sg player who can will buy as many deck until they get the cards they want.
fact 2 people will take advantage of what they can before htye are stoppend
fact 3 I am eating ice cream
fact 4 no matter how you look it the 1st month of the CC released will be chaos.
fact 5 we have no info on how CC will work but we know what it need what it will do and how people will react and also how it will be work and how the profit will be made.

Labyth Build on how to abuse sacrifice Hello my name is FC or my name is templer or my name is Light character with Greater Heal and Heal
as you know already I can heal with my light magic that heals 1000 life all I have to do is spam my heal and attack and I can conserve my energy for my light attacks blast so they can end you.
Build 2 I am water character I have defeciet in power but I can heal a lot I will sacrifice renew
Build 3 I am shadow character who can use a lot of life drain without putting my deck in danger I also contain many sacrifices.

Funny I had to make it in 1st person.



Combat dummy -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 119 - READ THE FIRST POST (4/30/2013 22:47:37)

@Labyth: Haha.... I Read That In A Goofy Voice



Megadragonknight -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 119 - READ THE FIRST POST (4/30/2013 22:47:52)

I trust in Nulgath's strong belief on making the game balance. Beside, he is the game developer of OS and there is no way he would allow his game to go unbalance.



Combat dummy -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 119 - READ THE FIRST POST (4/30/2013 22:50:57)

@Clinton: Match Froze....... Another Rematch....

Why Is It Every Single Match That I Get First Turn The Game HAS To Wait For Connection And Skip My Turn.... WHY!

@Mega: Im Glad Im Not The Only One.



kise2 -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 119 - READ THE FIRST POST (4/30/2013 22:51:20)

@Combat dummy
Lol im not even gonna lie I read it in a goofy voice as well[:D].



Labyth -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 119 - READ THE FIRST POST (4/30/2013 22:52:23)

Ah funny you said that Mega I already stated CC will not balance anything before I gave my reason clearly I know what the reason of unbalance are. I know how things are balanced now but I know what things will happened. once certain things happened is easy to predict

If I put 100 dollar in you face and tell you to split the money with me just give me what you think I deserved 5 thing will happened
you will give yourself more
you will give me more
you will split it 50/50
you won't take the money
you will take all the money

Being able to see possibilities means being able to see what will happened.
and each scenario cause something else to happened like game pieces moving according to the dice and their are only 6 choices on a dice.

Their is no arguing with those facts
although yes you could do other things with the money but in the end you will take or not take that just making it more simple 2 choices take the money or not take it.
@below TO kise I said choice you will make not choice I will make I can control what I do but can I control what you will do....the simple formula would be you take or not take you do an action I know what I will do.i don't know what you will do but I know what you can do.



kise2 -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 119 - READ THE FIRST POST (4/30/2013 22:55:28)

@Labyth

Thats pretty good I would like to duel you one day[:)]. You could just burn the money so no one gets it so its 6 choices.



Bunker -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 119 - READ THE FIRST POST (4/30/2013 22:57:06)

@Labyth: Just wondering, what would you consider "balanced" then?



Victoria3114 -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 119 - READ THE FIRST POST (4/30/2013 23:00:02)

@ Bunker
When all is equally strong with their strengths and drawbacks.

When CC comes, I predict neutralize/iron hide on all characters. Far too much cheap utility to pass up.



Labyth -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 119 - READ THE FIRST POST (4/30/2013 23:00:15)

@Bunker
Balance I could tell you what I consider balance is easy something that pays the price for what is worth
example Sg player pay money for what they have that how they balance their rewards they get. Free player don't pay money so we must work hard that how we balance our rewards.

that is balance in one form(watch as I don't go into details cause then details aren't balanced)

@above to anyone we all forget one simple variable we will buy decks that have the possibility of containing the cards we want we might not be able to buy the cards we want but the deck we buy might have the possibility of having that card.....


@below I know we are not talking about money but bunker did ask me what I consider balance so I gave him an example he would understand...he didn't specify to me on what topic he wanted here my balance opinion on



Megadragonknight -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 119 - READ THE FIRST POST (4/30/2013 23:00:38)

@Laybth
You don't make any sense at all. We are talking about game balance, not money or a person being too greedy with money. I won't argue with anyone and I don't like causing trouble. I do know players will be too unhappy if CC will cause unbalance and chaotic in battle.

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@above
I see. Sorry for that misunderstood and I can't say I agree or disagree with your point. I guess I am being neutral with your point.

Also, like I said, I do hope there won't be any speculation on CC until it is release this Friday, so until then, lets just discuss other things.



ND Mallet -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 119 - READ THE FIRST POST (4/30/2013 23:09:37)

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Labyth Build on how to abuse sacrifice Hello my name is FC or my name is templer or my name is Light character with Greater Heal and Heal
as you know already I can heal with my light magic that heals 1000 life all I have to do is spam my heal and attack and I can conserve my energy for my light attacks blast so they can end you.
Build 2 I am water character I have defeciet in power but I can heal a lot I will sacrifice renew
Build 3 I am shadow character who can use a lot of life drain without putting my deck in danger I also contain many sacrifices.

1. Nulgath already stated there would be elemental limits. He doesn't want vampires casting light spells or magma monsters shooting icicles so Light is out.
2. Refresh only gives you 300 per turn. That means you'll get 200 health back in two turns and only 500 damage.
3. Same with above except Life Drain only gets you 300 back in one turn. Plus Life Drain is way expensive to just abuse for health and Sacrifice.



Labyth -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 119 - READ THE FIRST POST (4/30/2013 23:10:18)

Yes like the ice cream I am eating I was eating this ice cream and it came to me....WHAT IF they make and ICe cream monster ......He is water and ICE and his % hit combo is he drops a snowman on you 1st the bottom half then the middle then his head then a hat then you put nose on it and it explodes.

@above to ND dude let me tell you the things one can already do I will specify what each element has the capability to do to start with
Neutral(iron hide spam you only need 2 iron hide in you deck for thiss (counter,death flow,power strike,)
Fire(heavy damage all you need are 2 incinerate or 2 fire balls)
Ice(freeze and over block also PUT BOMBS THAT GO OFF AND FIRE IT WHOLE DEFENSE AT YOU(freeze,ice orb,shatter,iuce wall)
Lightning (can fight you without having to charge energy(that how I fight energize,storm,surge)
Earth(Can cause heavy damage put heavy shields pierce and freeze you and trow is defense at you petrify,mountaint strike,crush,stone wall)
Water(heals over time a lot and low energy cost cards fresh start water rapid reneew)
Light(heavy damage and healing might,blessed strike,retribution,greater heal,heal)
Dark(dot you to death and fire a lot of damaged MOD ,poison,Empower,Sacrifice,and also void reflector)



kise2 -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 119 - READ THE FIRST POST (4/30/2013 23:11:02)

I do trust Nulgath's judgements but I KNOW (im pretty sure) everyone will use iron hide neutralize combo, I mean characters even start out with neutral energy. Perhaps we should stop this conversation before an AK comes and gets onto us for discussing game mechanics or "flaming". If I buy $50 worth of sg's should I buy now so I get boost for my chars or should I just wait till Friday and maybe their will be a special promo or something like "Buy 250 sg's get 3 packs free".



99th Dracopyre -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 119 - READ THE FIRST POST (4/30/2013 23:12:16)


Iron Hide is definitely the best card to keep around. It's almost a 2-turn safeguard.

~Draco



Combat dummy -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 119 - READ THE FIRST POST (4/30/2013 23:13:00)

Why Cant We, Like Docile Children, Usher In Card Customization, Then After Its Has Been Field Tested, Come Back Here With Our Constructive Complaints. Its Giving Me A Headache Reading All This Ranting About A Feature You Guys Have No Idea About As Far As Functionality Goes. Stop Wasting Space On The Forum Because Once Its Released And Things Are Hopefully Not As They Seem, The Forum Servers Will Overload With A Bunch Of People Logging On To Delete Their Half-Wit Comments About This Very Topic.... If You All Are So Concerned, Why Did Many Of You Try To Get The Team To Rush The Process?
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Wus Takin So Long! [:@]

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When Iz CC Comin Out We Nead Moar Better Cardz


Its Crap Like That, Places Unnecessary Stress On The Developers. You Cannot Have The Best Of Both Worlds In These Times We Are Living In... Either We Wait Another Month Or So (Recommended) Or We Get It Now Despite Whatever Issues May Come Along With It....

One Of The Things To Considered Is That The Game Is In A Clay Fixture, Meaning It Can Be Molded And Refined, Cracks Are Inevitable, But With A Little Water And Patience, All The Flaws Will Smooth Out!



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