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Cyber Dream -> Was focus op for all classes? (5/3/2013 20:45:28)
I personally think it was only op to bm and bh because of blood lust. In that case, focused shouldnt of been nerfed for everyone. Just another case of people copying builds causing something to get nerfed.

King Helios -> RE: Was focus op for all classes? (5/3/2013 20:49:43)
And TlM; High tech, reroute, surgical, IA.

Mother1 -> RE: Was focus op for all classes? (5/3/2013 20:53:21)
It was not strong for all classes. However with balance it works like this. If one is abusing it and people call for the nerf they all have to suffer. No nerf has even been selective.

NDB -> RE: Was focus op for all classes? (5/3/2013 20:59:43)
BH and TLM mainly. Some old OP builds are slowly coming back now....

chusen -> RE: Was focus op for all classes? (5/3/2013 21:06:39)
even though i am not a focus user... the nerf to focus was so sick.... they should have made it up to 40 stat each if it was +20 damage only or maybe at least increase technology bonus or maybe increase robot damage?

Mother1 -> RE: Was focus op for all classes? (5/3/2013 21:08:18)
@ chusen They did buff robot base damage by 3 for all bots. The overall nerf is -7 damage from what it was before.

edwardvulture -> RE: Was focus op for all classes? (5/3/2013 21:19:20)
yes

Cyber Dream -> RE: Was focus op for all classes? (5/3/2013 21:24:04)
This senseless bias nerfing has to stop. Im going to come up with a solution for it

Ranloth -> RE: Was focus op for all classes? (5/3/2013 21:31:01)
It wasn't bias nerfing. Before you make such claim, kindly do some research to justify it. I've found a post that will help you understand the nerf and why it was done: http://forums2.battleon.com/f/fb.asp?m=21242187

Cyber Dream -> RE: Was focus op for all classes? (5/3/2013 21:48:19)
But what about the minority of people who were completly fine with the balance before the nerfs(not just this one) Does their voice count to? All I see is things that are getting complained about the most nerfed.

Ranloth -> RE: Was focus op for all classes? (5/3/2013 21:59:00)
Opinion cannot overrule the facts. One, because it's biased. Two, because it's not justified (which is why it needs facts). Robots pulled ahead over normal weapons much faster hence why Focus 4-5 was much better than any other build - because its damage was significantly higher.

Goony -> RE: Was focus op for all classes? (5/4/2013 0:38:31)
OK, this one is a case of #BlameG00NY2013. Rabblefroth was going to drop the focus damage to +5 per focus level and slightly buff base damage. But let's look at the numbers 1st. At 5 focus damage was 30+11-15 (base damages for robots) that makes a robots damage 41-45 before you include the technology bonus. The current damage of an aux at level 35 is 39 for the same cool-down warm-up cycle so you can see that it had a 2- 6 damage advantage. This was then compounded by the fact that the technology bonus was also being combined to add resistance, whereas the other weapons required support or strength to improve damage. So you sacrificed defence and resistance to get power, this was not the case with robots. Effectively they were like equipping a level 42+ weapon in a game that has a level 35 cap at the moment. And speaking of the cap, the old focus formula had fewer options for going forward and 6 focus would never happen the way it was... So, the game can progress now and robots do damage that is comparable to your level. If that is wrong then I'll take full responsibility for it as I pushed Rabblefroth hard for this change. I don't like pushing Rabblefroth he's got those crazy eyes and scares me :P Anyway, move on and explore new builds with the way robots now work :)

Xendran -> RE: Was focus op for all classes? (5/4/2013 2:06:39)
quote: But what about the minority of people who were completly fine with the balance before the nerfs(not just this one) Does their voice count to? They're a minority for a reason.

theholyfighter -> RE: Was focus op for all classes? (5/4/2013 4:20:49)
Add 6 Focus and keep it 4 er focus, have it be 4.5 per Focus, or just remove Focus 5 and let it be 5 per focus.

Ranloth -> RE: Was focus op for all classes? (5/4/2013 8:11:48)
5 per Focus would be like yesterday - -2 less damage which did nothing. Focus needed a nerf since it pulled ahead after diminishing returns on stats. I'll agree with adding Focus 6 but keept it as it is (*4) since there aren't any issues with Bots anymore - even with IA which has fallen by roughly 7-9 damage when its special is used. Likewise with some claiming Hazard is OP due to Poison - in all cases, it went down by 1 DpT and very few have went down by -2 DpT (dat rounding). It's really better the way it is now. Bots are a bit more viable for those who aren't Focus 4 or 5, but perhaps Focus 3. I'm talking about high level here. Focus isn't giving as much damage anymore (old Focus 5 gave +30 and Focus 3 gave +18 - 12 difference, whilst now it's +20 and +12 which is 8 difference & a mini buff to Robot's base damage).

theholyfighter -> RE: Was focus op for all classes? (5/4/2013 8:44:03)
quote: remove Focus 5 and let it be 5 per focus. I think you misunderstood it. I'll explain it further. quote: 25 on all stats-1 Focus-5 damage 30 on all stats-2 Focus-10 damage 35 on all stats-3 Focus-15 damage 40 on all stats-4 Focus-20 damage 45 on all stats-4 Focus-20 damage 50 on all stats-4 Focus-20 damage . . . The +3 to all robots will still apply tho.

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