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ansh0 -> RE: Color Blast (5/5/2013 12:10:01)

^Do a few PvP battles, record them, and show me the bot being useful.



Exploding Penguin -> RE: Color Blast (5/5/2013 12:15:19)

In PvP, the bot is useless. In 2v1 bosses, against NPCs, and in jugg it can actually be pretty useful. Nonetheless, I'd still like to see some application of the bot in normal PvP.



theholyfighter -> RE: Color Blast (5/6/2013 10:37:56)

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The point I was making is that you are making the opponent play out of their comfort zone to avoid attacking themselves. That is still very tactical and useful. Just because this bot takes some brains to use doesn't mean it is underpowered and useless.

Um...that's not the issue. It doesn't have anything to do with using your brain on the robot. It's simple logic actually.

Color Blast activates when your opponent strikes. Yea, you use ur brain and wait until your opponent used up his/her/its energy, when his/her/its sidearm/aux/robot is in cooldown, and when his/her/its active Cores are used. Then, you use it, letting him/her/it ending up with Strike as the only option. However, guess what? The person can simply skip turns until sidearm/auxiliary/robot comes back from cooldown. No matter when you plan it your opponent can always skip turns to avoid hitting oneself.



ND Mallet -> RE: Color Blast (5/6/2013 10:54:23)

@holyfighter Would you not agree that would be a free turn, I.E. a stun? If you use the bot right, you force your enemy to use a skill or ranged weapon early to disrupt their strategy or even get yourself a free turn.



ansh0 -> RE: Color Blast (5/6/2013 10:59:58)

^Even that never happens.

People have too many options over strike.

By the time you use the special, the opponent can easily use his gun or aux. He doesn't even need to skip his turn.
If this not wasn't useless, how come no one uses the special?



Silver Sky Magician -> RE: Color Blast (5/6/2013 11:20:25)

^

One way my opponent used the bot on me was when I debuffed him and my primary weapon was my only energy attack (besides the IA special, but I was saving that up), so the malf essentially became meaningless. It saved him a lot of health. Though he lost anyway.



ansh0 -> RE: Color Blast (5/6/2013 11:56:53)

Still useless.



8x -> RE: Color Blast (5/6/2013 12:27:18)

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^Do a few PvP battles, record them, and show me the bot being useful.

I don't have enough credits to buy it and I don't feel like spending varium. But I will give you an example how someone used it against me. I am using physical sword and energy gun, aux and assault bot E and I'm a bh with high strength and smoke. After I smoked and used chairman's fury my opponent used Color Blast. I was left with only energy attacks and I lost. The battle would have ended after 2 of my strikes if he hadn't used Color Blast.



ansh0 -> RE: Color Blast (5/6/2013 12:49:03)

Still not doing what it's supposed to do.

The fact that you did not strike proves that the special is useless and easily avoidable.



8x -> RE: Color Blast (5/6/2013 13:18:07)

One thing that I just noticed is that you keep saying that it's useless, but you are not saying that it is unbalanced or under powered. So if you are not happy with the bot you have another option: Sell it.



Mother1 -> RE: Color Blast (5/6/2013 13:28:00)

I have to agree with 8x here. You are involving balance when you post this here, and so far you have not mentioned once how this bot is unbalanced. Especially since all robots got a nerf to bring them down to the power of other items since the focus nerf.



ND Mallet -> RE: Color Blast (5/6/2013 14:28:17)

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Still not doing what it's supposed to do.

The fact that you did not strike proves that the special is useless and easily avoidable.

So even if it got you a 100% ratio, it would still be useless because the other guys didn't ever strike with the special active?



Sageofpeace -> RE: Color Blast (5/6/2013 16:03:21)

bio borg and this bot are both useless



Xendran -> RE: Color Blast (5/6/2013 18:16:51)

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So even if it got you a 100% ratio, it would still be useless because the other guys didn't ever strike with the special active?


Arguing within the realm of extremes is not going to prove any valid point.



Silver Sky Magician -> RE: Color Blast (5/7/2013 7:36:39)

You're missing the entire point here. The point of this bot is not to make the opponent damage himself. The point of this bot is to prevent the opponent from striking for three turns. In what situations might this be useful? As I pointed out, when the opponent has used debuffs, when the opponent's other moves would do significantly less damage, when you have a considerably higher chance of deflecting the opponent's moves than blocking them, and so forth. It is a highly specialised, but definitely not useless or underpowered skill.



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