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Ranloth -> RE: Slight Focus buff (5/21/2013 17:37:48)

Then increase your Tech. With standard Focus 5 build, your damage should be equal unless you're leaning towards a certain stat then yes, one of your weapons will have higher damage than your Bot. I don't see why that is a problem if Bot is minimally weaker than your weapons, assuming non-equal stats (but requirement for Focus 5). You've provided no data at that which makes it unclear as of to why it's weak for you (compared to your Aux).



omega fighter -> RE: Slight Focus buff (5/21/2013 17:55:27)

no i mean less-less



Ranloth -> RE: Slight Focus buff (5/21/2013 18:13:34)

How much is "less-less"? Data is crucial here, an opinion is not.



omega fighter -> RE: Slight Focus buff (5/21/2013 19:41:22)

like about 10 dmg



Ranloth -> RE: Slight Focus buff (5/21/2013 19:44:31)

"About" is still an opinion. Exact numbers would be helpful. Not necessarily your stats but the damage range of your Aux and Bot, rather than "about 10 damage" which shows me you may have low Tech, Focus 5 and very heavy Support lean which means Aux should be stronger than the Bot.



omega fighter -> RE: Slight Focus buff (5/21/2013 20:18:38)

ya know i don't need to argue with you any more i want other opinions



Ranloth -> RE: Slight Focus buff (5/21/2013 20:26:07)

Asking for data isn't arguing. You're claiming your Aux > Bot thus Focus needs a buff but include no stats under which Aux performs better than your Bot. You state "about 10 damage", so assuming equal defences, you'd have to have a lean on Support to make your Bot be weaker by 10 damage compared to your Aux. But sure, to prove your point, evidence isn't crucial so made up facts can do. >.>



ale6300 -> RE: Slight Focus buff (5/21/2013 20:38:11)

@Trans If you need exact numbers my normal strike had the same dmg like my robot 48, with 54 str and my robot with 82 tech, But i need to add iam using a sword, and my robot is the infernal android that had one of the weakest robot dmg.



Xendran -> RE: Slight Focus buff (5/21/2013 20:43:59)

Anybody commenting about bot damage vs other damage should be required to post a screenshot of their build.

Bots are the tech weapon. Guns and Primaries are the str weapon. Auxes are the supp weapon.
If you have around equal in all stats and 5 focus, these should all do around the same damage. If you pump into one of the stats while using 5 focus, that stat's weapon will be more powerful than the rest, including your bot.



ale6300 -> RE: Slight Focus buff (5/21/2013 20:54:19)

@xendran My build here Dont want to buff focus or something only are giving information that omega dont give, for me bots need to be balanced instead of focus, some example are infernal android and bunny bot (iam talking about their special not dmg).



Ranloth -> RE: Slight Focus buff (5/21/2013 20:57:13)

ale6300, my point exactly. Assuming 80'ish Tech and 50'ish Support & Strength, the weapons and your Bot are pretty much equal in damage. The 10 damage difference which omega claims would mean he'd need around 50'ish Tech and 80-90 Support. Leaning towards Support, as I was explaining earlier but got told that I'm arguing. -.-



Bloodpact -> RE: Slight Focus buff (5/22/2013 2:16:20)

4 is a lil too weak 5 would be a lil too strong maybe every other focus level you'd get +5 and starting with +4



omega fighter -> RE: Slight Focus buff (5/23/2013 17:08:06)

thats not a bad idea



Noobatron x3000 -> RE: Slight Focus buff (5/23/2013 17:19:26)

You know something i really don't think bots need buffing at all I'm rolling a 3 focus caster with IA equipped. And the bot is decent I'm hitting mid 40s - 50 damage on rage pretty much regardless of res focus is fine. Yeah it was better before but the game has bigger issues and more to come tomorrow.



omega fighter -> RE: Slight Focus buff (5/23/2013 17:20:49)

thats cause you spam tech



Noobatron x3000 -> RE: Slight Focus buff (5/23/2013 17:39:19)

And i lose damage/stat points else where in order to do so . Swings and roundabouts . Every build has its strengths and weaknesses . Focus is fine.



omega fighter -> RE: Slight Focus buff (5/23/2013 17:51:38)

while i lose expensive robo dmg



Ranloth -> RE: Slight Focus buff (5/23/2013 17:54:32)

And have these stats elsewhere - Strength, Dex, Support, or HP/EP - unlike Tech abusers. You can't have everything, there's always sacrifice to be made.



ED Divine Darkness -> RE: Slight Focus buff (5/30/2013 7:28:12)

just add an extra 3 base bot dmg and that will do fine.



omega fighter -> RE: Slight Focus buff (5/30/2013 16:07:45)

oh yeah



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