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Mother1 -> How to balance the game forever 2.0 (5/22/2013 20:45:08)

First I want to say this thread isn't about balance but a list of funny things that would never get into the game for the threat of destroying it for good. A thread like this was made before but it was moved the the balance section (when it wasn't about balance) and eventually vanished. So I repeat this is not a topic about balance so AK please don't move this there.

So I will start it off.

1 increase the min rate for blocks crits, stun's and deflections to 50% and make it cap at 100%. I mean why not Epic duel is lucky duel after all

2 Make NPC unlimited but also count as wins but make them have 50-60 defense and resist as well as high offense.

3 Make the baby yeti chomp make your weapons disappear forever it ate them dug :P

4 return supercharge back to the way it scaled in alpha but add 100% healing to it as well as it stealing all the energy from everyone when using it. It is called supercharge for a reason.

5 Bring back enhancements for all weapons, and make them have 30 slots per item for equipment brought with varium but give no enhancements if the item is brought with credits.

6 Make Plasma cannon, Bunker blaster, and Cheap shot ignore all defenses/resist and have 100% chance to crit. For Cheapshot it is unblockable.

7 Buff the infernal android back to what it was when it first came out, remove robot cooldowns, as well as making all one use specials on all bots unlimited. Also Make it so you can choose what ability you can shut off with the pyro fly, and buff both the assault bot and Azreal's borg removal rates to 100%.

8 Make a passive core that has to power to make all other cores in the game worthless and have it come standard on the basic armor for all players. If you started before this came out have it in the vendor bot and make it a free core like the starter items are if you don't upgrade them.

These are just a few idea that I can think of to Help balance so what are your idea to Help balance?



goldslayer1 -> RE: How to balance the game forever 2.0 (5/22/2013 20:56:51)

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8 Make a passive core that has to power to make all other cores in the game worthless and have it come standard on the basic armor for all players.

actually, i personally would like this. it would make the game resemble a little more to the old one.



Ranloth -> RE: How to balance the game forever 2.0 (5/22/2013 20:59:46)

If you're a Mercenary, you get insta-lose when you do PvP and are only allowed to level up through loses. NPCs will 1 hit KO you as well and say "Noob."

Using Assimilation will drain all of your opponent's EP and provide you passive EP regeneration whenever you spend it on skills (infinite Energy).

If you're playing as a BM, your opponent's Ultimates are blockable and deflectable to give BMs a buff which it needs.

When battling, if you Heal, the server will automatically kick you and display the message saying "N0 h3@l, u n00b."



beastmo -> RE: How to balance the game forever 2.0 (5/22/2013 21:04:52)

when giras made this thread it was moved to balance changes sooo yeah. XD



Noobatron x3000 -> RE: How to balance the game forever 2.0 (5/22/2013 21:29:47)

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When battling, if you Heal, the server will automatically kick you and display the message saying "N0 h3@l, u n00b."


LOL!

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(infinite Energy)


So basically what the Ches used to have ?

On topic i know this thread ain't serious so yeah.



King Helios -> RE: How to balance the game forever 2.0 (5/22/2013 21:48:43)

You can have a team of trained diggers dig a hole under your opponent if you are a Cyber Hunter.



hijinks -> RE: How to balance the game forever 2.0 (5/22/2013 21:57:40)

Have all ultimate skills cooldowns gone.
Pyro Fly and Concussion core can permanently lock the skills it hits. xD



Dual Thrusters -> RE: How to balance the game forever 2.0 (5/22/2013 22:02:20)

Pay 100 battle tokens to auto-win any fight.

Rage bars are always filled up

Heals can be blocked or crit.

Pay varium to instantly level up

This

Bloodlust gives 200% of damage done back to your health

Yeti chomp removes your opponent's gun and aux....FOREVER!

Core that let's you insta-kill your partner to gain all his stats and health.



hijinks -> RE: How to balance the game forever 2.0 (5/22/2013 22:09:11)

Pay 100k credits to look at a shop.
Allow taxation on credits and varium (100 credits/varium given to Fortune City Fund everyday. :P)
Core that gives you GodMode status (unkillable).



Mother1 -> RE: How to balance the game forever 2.0 (5/22/2013 22:13:10)

Here are a few more

Everytime you get a block or deflection you get booted off of epic duel with it saying Blocking/deflection is not allowed.

Buff deadly aim so it does 1000+ damage

Make diamond staff (mage version of diamond blades) and give it to blood mages in place of fireball and make it do 10,000+ damage at level 1. This way they have 3 passives and BM will get a much needed buff.

@ goldslayer1

I think you misread I said ALL other cores which means your skills would be worthless as well. Remember in omega everything but the strike key is a core so with this core you and your opponent would not be able to use anything else but strikes.



estehmanisdinginnn -> RE: How to balance the game forever 2.0 (5/23/2013 0:37:27)

- The trollface core : When used your opponents computer screen displays a large trollface until 3 hours
- Ability to steal : When viewing your opponents character page you can steal their weapons



goldslayer1 -> RE: How to balance the game forever 2.0 (5/23/2013 1:04:19)

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I think you misread I said ALL other cores which means your skills would be worthless as well.

no gun, aux?
and yeah i understood what u meant.
a core that disables ur cores, and the enemy's core. (which would be like delta with a core less pvp. it would sort of be its own mini battle mode)



drekon -> RE: How to balance the game forever 2.0 (5/23/2013 1:05:21)

Auto-ban if you win 2 battles in a row. That should even out the LB %.



RageSoul -> RE: How to balance the game forever 2.0 (5/23/2013 1:14:24)

A core that steals all your opponent's Varium , else bans him / her ! This should all the trick :)



Renegade Reaper -> RE: How to balance the game forever 2.0 (5/23/2013 1:21:01)

Killing an enemy allows you to permanently absorb their health and energy. There is no cap on how much permanent health you can have.

Introduce the Masamune & Murasame to the game. These weapons have a special that kills your opponent instantly. 'No pain, no gain.' Hah!

Introduce Thor's Hammer. This weapon will only kill Legion alignment players. It does 0 damage to Exile opponents.

In PVP, you can ONLY fight members of the opposite alignment.

Endurance mode. You start out fighting a level 1, then 2 level 1's, then 1 level 2, then 2 level 2's, and so on and so forth until you die. The more opponents you kill without getting yourself killed increases the rewards you get.

The ability to ban mods xD

Introduce the 'Button-Masher' mode to the game. Whoever can type/ click the fastest, wins.

Introduce the Samurai game mode. The opponents glare at each other, they put their hands on their weapon of choice, they coil, ready to strike: the '!' appears!!! Whoever clicked the mouse button first kills the other guy.



Mysterion. -> RE: How to balance the game forever 2.0 (5/23/2013 2:16:56)

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Remember in omega everything but the strike key is a core so with this core you and your opponent would not be able to use anything else but strikes.

Normal gun/aux shot =/= Skill cores
Class skills =/= Skill cores

AKA, players will still be able to act like pre-Omega, as those are NOT skill cores.



The Incredible Hulk -> RE: How to balance the game forever 2.0 (5/23/2013 2:28:33)

Bring back the super charge from alpha where it did split 3x damage (If it done 50 damage, it could be 10,20,20/ I liked the animation).
Massacre that did 12x hit of damage (Longer one will be cool, not in terms of more damage)
Give 50 % ignored defenses to bunker buster
Give the berseker back to its normal damage
Take away all azrael guns and give them back their var + give an achievment worth 5000 for trying out the azrael guns and auxilliary.
Bring back the old hybrid armor (I find it useful)


Bring back the fun in this game!




Mother1 -> RE: How to balance the game forever 2.0 (5/23/2013 2:33:28)

@ mysterion

This was taken from an old branch of the design notes

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When Omega launches, every single action you can issue in battle, including Strike, gun, bazooka, all of your skills, all of your item special abilities, and well, everything is now handled by a 100% new "core-based" battle engine. Sound fancy? That's partly because it is. If you haven't heard, the 9500-lines-of-code-long battle engine that is the heart of EpicDuel has been rewritten for this release.


Oh wow I guess I was wrong about one thing even strike is a core according to this. So with that passive core there would be no duel since no one could do anything. But it would really fix balance though.



Mysterion. -> RE: How to balance the game forever 2.0 (5/23/2013 3:48:30)

^ e.e

My bad, wasnt around during the launch of Omega..



Scyze -> RE: How to balance the game forever 2.0 (5/23/2013 3:53:39)

Rather than have NPC's getting harder to beat, limit them to only 100 battles counting to your battle record. After that, you have to wait a day but you can still challenge NPC's/



Melbourne -> RE: How to balance the game forever 2.0 (5/23/2013 9:54:43)

A couple core suggestions.

When activated it allows you to control the other opponent.
Gives a /nuke option which kills everyone in-game and gives you all the credits and exp for it.
Whenever starting a battle you have the ability to attack everyone while their loading into the match.
When using shields and other buffs, they go negative and the server implements a giant troll face onto your screen saying Lulz yu be3n tr0lled 1337



odsey -> RE: How to balance the game forever 2.0 (5/23/2013 10:20:43)

When facing more than 1 opponent, Massacre instant kill both of the opponent.

Health booster makes you hp higher. Permanently.

Generator core makes the game shutdown.

Azrael Will makes your opponent do whatever they want such as: Instant kill and gear stealing.

Core is only usable once. Then you must buy it again with varium.

Passive core is always working every time your opponent do something.

Support will increase primary damage Aux ddamage, all skills and lower you opponent support to 0.(Mercenary skill)

Bounty hunter will earn money for every skill they used. Formula: Skills x 10.000.

Plasma rain/Artillery strike damage will be added to the core of plasma rain/meteor shower/ similar cores.

Shadow arts effect will always happen no matter what.

Rabblefoth gun when fired, will active a special core that summon a giant Rabblefoth using a book that summon runes which will makes the enemy trapped. Give all of your enemy credits, varium and cores to you if you use this.

Frost bite will makes your enemy energy disappear forever.

Chairman fury will summon a chair beneath your opponent and chairman Platinum sitting on the chair. CP drains takes all of your money and will make rage dissapear.

Titan and Nightwraith will always win when the battle start.




Noobatron x3000 -> RE: How to balance the game forever 2.0 (5/23/2013 11:53:07)

Every time some one uses a max skill and does less then 15 damage server message comes up "Get a build bro"



ansh0 -> RE: How to balance the game forever 2.0 (5/23/2013 12:03:36)

Make this game filled with skins.

Cause who needs unique weapons?


Oh.


Wait.



Mother1 -> RE: How to balance the game forever 2.0 (5/23/2013 12:15:31)

Here are a few that I could think of

Make it when Juggernaut mode plays the opponents can choose if they want to fight the juggernaut or not. If the opponents don't want to face the jug they leave however everytime this happens the jug always loses and the opponents who ran win.

Make it where Focus 5 awards you 100+ robot damage and when facing anyone that isn't focus it nerfs their attacks by the amount of bonus focus damage you have.

Make surgical strike work with a club for max effect. If you use a sword while using it whatever damage you would do to your opponent you do to yourself you lose the rage they would and your opponent heals the amount you would.



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