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Sensei Chan -> 2V2 And Juggernaut Unfair (8/17/2013 8:39:12)

http://prntscr.com/1lrm6m
This is what I encounter quite often as a Juggernaut
I think we need to lower the levels Juggernaut's encounter because the current 2V2 level difference is 6 Levels so that means I could quite possibly encounter the same level 29 in a 2V2 Battle as I encountered in Juggernaut mode.

Now 2V2 battles as you may know are unfair because of the Legion vs Exile Filter that has recently come back for The DREAD WAR
I have recently seen
30 VS 35
30 VS 35
In a 2V2 Battle which is a 10 level difference then I saw this on my other account http://prntscr.com/1lfqvp which is a 11 level difference.



DarkDevil -> RE: 2V2 And Juggernaut Unfair (8/17/2013 8:44:41)

actually beating 2 ppl with about 6 lvls gap is really easy especially for tanky builds you just have to adapt.



Sensei Chan -> RE: 2V2 And Juggernaut Unfair (8/17/2013 8:47:13)

It is NOT about anything you have just stated I am talking about 11 level difference in 2V2 battles who cares if you can beat them? It shouldn't be like this its unfair!



DarkDevil -> RE: 2V2 And Juggernaut Unfair (8/17/2013 8:51:13)

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The team is already aware of this issue. There was going to be tweaks to the 2v2 system last week. Unfortunately, there wasn't enough time to resolved the issue. Unless there's anymore problems with the tweaks, it should be ready in the next update.


taken from Mech Mario post in another thread.



Sensei Chan -> RE: 2V2 And Juggernaut Unfair (8/17/2013 8:54:10)

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It should be ready in the next update.

How long will that be are you talking about after the Dread War?

Okay now I'm still awaiting my Juggernaut thread comments about it?



Ranloth -> RE: 2V2 And Juggernaut Unfair (8/17/2013 9:09:39)

The filter was fixed, AFAIK. I've had match-ups with up to 4 levels difference total today, in 2v2. "29+29 vs. 35" in Juggernaut is not a bug but intended, this was the case aaaages ago - before the filter was even thought of.



Sensei Chan -> RE: 2V2 And Juggernaut Unfair (8/17/2013 9:12:01)

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aaaages ago

That doesn't sound quite like you Trans -.-



Ranloth -> RE: 2V2 And Juggernaut Unfair (8/17/2013 9:16:08)

But I'm serious. I think this matchmaking system for Juggernaut was made just before the end of Delta and it wasn't changed ever since. So in fact, it was aaaaaaaages ago - literally months. I did play Juggernaut during Omega, I did have to fight them and I did lose a fair amount of times but Juggernaut is meant to be a bit more difficult in Omega due to enhancements being gone.



kittycat -> RE: 2V2 And Juggernaut Unfair (8/19/2013 2:19:28)

Well then for 2v2, here is the formula for compensation. At the start of the battle, the lowest-leveled player in the battle gets a damage boost by ((opponent's level plus its ally's level)-(player's level plus its ally's level))*1.1 points.



dfo99 -> RE: 2V2 And Juggernaut Unfair (8/21/2013 14:03:10)

alot of unfair 2v2 with lv 29 and 35 vs 35 and 35, still happens



DarkDevil -> RE: 2V2 And Juggernaut Unfair (8/21/2013 16:29:30)

^ the max level gap is 6 lvls so yes it is still possible and will always be possible.



naythan_aqw -> RE: 2V2 And Juggernaut Unfair (8/21/2013 16:35:22)

i have a level 24 tactical merc and i have seen up to level 34 juggs vs me and another lvl 24 NOT FAIR



DarkDevil -> RE: 2V2 And Juggernaut Unfair (8/21/2013 16:52:37)

actually it is fair if you can notice he has only 1 heal and barely +30 hp and +10 protection and +10 damage on the other hand you got everything TWICE including the heal and you get 2 turns and 2 rages. i think omega nerfed down juggs i remember when i used to fight juggs with 60 damage and 100 hp and 40 armor in the begining of delta ... those tact mercs.
yet it is possible from both sides to win now ... except for support mercs especially two with continous crict.



Predator9657 -> RE: 2V2 And Juggernaut Unfair (8/21/2013 20:07:57)

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i have a level 24 tactical merc and i have seen up to level 34 juggs vs me and another lvl 24 NOT FAIR


You have to be joking. With the exception of when you get a really nooby partner, Jugs are easy to beat.



lionblades -> RE: 2V2 And Juggernaut Unfair (8/21/2013 20:55:26)

IMO Juggernaut is way better than 1vs1 with those copy BM builds and 2vs2 with those noob partners that don't have gear or can't play in general.

As a BH I can still get 88-90% ratio in Jugg in Omega, and while that sucks compared to Delta's best, it's still better than my 1vs1 ratio (around 70%) and 2vs2 ratio (around 60%)



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