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Midnightsoul -> How I would change Battery Backup (11/19/2013 20:18:21)

First, I would make the cooldown to 2.

Second, I would make it at around 19-20 energy at MAX (if you're level 35)


How this differs from the current Battery Backup:

Tech Mages have the opportunity to resist energy drainers and not have to wait so long for their next energy regen.

Tech Mages will have to sacrifice one more turn to use this skill (compared to having it with a 4-turn cooldown)




Altador987 -> RE: How I would change Battery Backup (11/19/2013 20:25:15)

so half the mp but more often... interesting i don't see a problem though i could see a lot of mages not knowing how and when to use it xD



Predator9657 -> RE: How I would change Battery Backup (11/19/2013 22:08:31)

Wouldn't it be more of a nerf to them since a cooldown of 2 means that 33% (1/3) of total turns are wasted while a cooldown of 4 means 20% (1/5) of total turns are wasted casting it?



Altador987 -> RE: How I would change Battery Backup (11/19/2013 22:11:42)

why do you keep calling it a waste lol i thought the skill was useful to mages (i'm pullin your leg here) and it's not like they have to use it every 2 cooldowns but they would no longer be so dependent on it by the three



Noobatron x3000 -> RE: How I would change Battery Backup (11/19/2013 22:54:44)

20 mana so you waste a turn for a l1 emp to make 10 skill points completely useless

this isn't a serious suggestion is it ?



Remorse -> RE: How I would change Battery Backup (11/19/2013 22:58:18)

Dislike,

Energy drains shoudld remain an effective strategy,

to resist energy drain mages can already use cores for example, and they already have 2 forms of energy regains.

If anything to improve balance mages need to be made more vulnerable to energy drains.



Altador987 -> RE: How I would change Battery Backup (11/19/2013 23:03:55)

they are i dont have much problem with that factor at all



Remorse -> RE: How I would change Battery Backup (11/19/2013 23:26:15)

Doesn't matter if you don't have a problem what you guys are agreeing on here is a negative counter.


Negative counters is what has wrecked this game in the past (azreal buff reducer)

counters is the only thing that keeps balance in this game at bay( or any game for that matter), the more counters for things the higher variety and creativity can and will be but as a follow up more focus on balance adjustments would be required.




If the game continues to destroy potential counters for things without creating them, what is left is a effortless game of luck and money.



Altador987 -> RE: How I would change Battery Backup (11/20/2013 0:14:59)

uh care to explain how it's a negative counter



Mother1 -> RE: How I would change Battery Backup (11/20/2013 1:36:39)

@ remorse

The azreal borg, and Azreal aux are both items that counter Buffs. You talk about how the game needs counters, yet when it comes to the counters to buffs you are 100% against them.

@ altador

A negative counter is something something that counters a counter I believe. In this case your idea would counter an energy drains, which is something Remorse feels is a bad thing. Like how if you debuff someone your opponent counters with a shield, they you counter their counter with one of the buff breakers. Anything that supports the first effect would be a negative counter.




Altador987 -> RE: How I would change Battery Backup (11/20/2013 1:55:50)

oh i wish that sentence couldve been explained better but i'll just leave it at he doesn't like the idea



Stabilis -> RE: How I would change Battery Backup (11/20/2013 12:48:19)

quote:

How this differs from the current Battery Backup:

Tech Mages have the opportunity to resist energy drainers and not have to wait so long for their next energy regen.


Redesigning a skill just to counter another skill is not a reason to balance it. If the numbers generated by Battery Backup and Static Grenade or Static Smash differ greatly, close the gap on those numbers, not give Battery Backup an advantage over those skills.



ED Divine Darkness -> RE: How I would change Battery Backup (11/20/2013 13:07:56)

maybe make it a % of your maximum energy?



Stabilis -> RE: How I would change Battery Backup (11/20/2013 13:26:43)

quote:

maybe make it a % of your maximum energy?


That just makes energy skills even more difficult to balance.



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