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ED Divine Darkness -> Massacre Balance (11/23/2013 17:49:29)

all ultimates but massacre get lifesteal and other effects. massacre should atleast be given lifesteal equal to other ultimates. 30% lifesteal.



Greed Redemption -> RE: Massacre Balance (11/23/2013 17:51:17)

Yeah I agree



EpicIsEpic -> RE: Massacre Balance (11/23/2013 18:06:43)

It was originally NOT given a life steal because it did around 14 more damage than all the other ultimates and BH (before cyber) had bloodlust which gave 23% back life.
Now massacre got nerfed to deal 8 more damage more than all the other ultimates but the BH also have BL now taken away so i agree (only if the static grenade gets nerfed)



Wootz -> RE: Massacre Balance (11/23/2013 18:17:00)

Massacre.
By my opinion the worst ultimate skill by nowaday standards.

Giving it a life steal depending on damage just wouldn't make any sense on a Bounty Hunter as they have Mark of Blood.
For the Cyber Hunter, they should get a variant of it with a special effect tied to it, as it has no way of passivly regaining Health.

It can still do much damage, but Strenght-improvement ain't working well for it and you gotta spend a lot of stat and skill points to achieve a decent damage output on it.



ED Divine Darkness -> RE: Massacre Balance (11/23/2013 18:46:08)

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Giving it a life steal depending on damage just wouldn't make any sense on a Bounty Hunter as they have Mark of Blood.


no working massacre build will have the energy to use a good level mark of blood with strong massacre.

and the massacre would take the stronger amount of lifesteal. it is is 32% from MoB then it would use that. it would pick the stronger amount. and since str was nerfed by the weapons nerf and plenty nerfs be4 that, the other ultimates r better.



Wootz -> RE: Massacre Balance (11/23/2013 18:53:53)

Oh belive me it can, living proof here mate! Even a 22% regain is big.



Mother1 -> RE: Massacre Balance (11/23/2013 19:30:30)

With all the nerfs and indirect nerfs massacre got I believe it does need a buff. Especially after the last nerf they did to strength which was an indirect nerf to it and all other strength moves. However if it does get lifesteal it should not stack with mark of blood.



ED Divine Darkness -> RE: Massacre Balance (11/23/2013 19:49:53)

i didnt say it would stack with MoB. it would induce plain massacre spam(even at level 1) if it did.



Mother1 -> RE: Massacre Balance (11/23/2013 20:13:47)

@ ed divine darkness

you never said it wouldn't stack with it either. I was just putting that out there so if a staff member does read this, and they decide to buff massacre the way you suggested they don't overpower the life gain it could get if someone is hit with MOB.



DarkDevil -> RE: Massacre Balance (11/24/2013 0:21:09)

adding lifesteal to it will make it even weaker and bountys already have lifesteal so for CH ?
both classes do lack in damage skills which is why their ultimate is a pure damage skill , it can't be buffed without being nerfed to be on the line of balance.

a better idea is to increase its power by 5% to make up for the decrease in weapons damage.



GearzHeadz -> RE: Massacre Balance (11/24/2013 21:53:59)

What if its special tied on would be something like "Enemy gains no rage from being attacked by massacre"



Remorse -> RE: Massacre Balance (11/25/2013 4:06:50)

^ Might make STR abuse a bit over the top with that.


However I do like the life steal idea so long as it does not stack with mark of blood like how it does not stack for BMs and supercharge.



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