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Emperor_Blitz -> Bring Back Delta!! (12/24/2013 11:23:45)

They are several reasons why we should bring Delta back, I could go on for days. I'm pretty sure several old players will return and start playing Epic duel again. Delta everything was balanced in my opinion. Omega so far as soon as an update comes out some class if OP because some one finds a good build people begin to copy it and it goes around. In Delta everyone wasn't one class copying each others build possibly a few people will.

If Delta does return the staff can make changes such as bring enhancements back let each weapon have it's original stats not like in omega where all the weapons are basically the same. Include where non- varium players could buy weapons for credits that used to cost varium and credits in Delta.



Chosen 0ne -> RE: Bring Back Delta!! (12/24/2013 11:28:07)

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Delta everything was balanced in my opinion. Omega so far as soon as an update comes out some class if OP because some one finds a good build people begin to copy it and it goes around. In Delta everyone wasn't one class copying each others build possibly a few people will.


You weren't here for Delta were you... Now obviously that's a joke because we both know that you were, but what you're saying simply isn't true.

  • Strength Tlm
  • Strength blood mage
  • New strength bloodmage
  • OP Cyber hunter with static charge
  • Merc support builds with crazy high support
  • Tech mage caster builds

    And more! People copied these builds like crazy too!



    • Emperor_Blitz -> RE: Bring Back Delta!! (12/24/2013 11:32:20)

    That was at the begging of Delta the strength tlm. At the end of Delta it was balanced my opinion once again. Which is what we need in omega but doesnt look like is going to happen.



    J Sub -> RE: Bring Back Delta!! (12/24/2013 11:39:08)

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    You weren't here for Delta were you... Now obviously that's a joke because we both know that you were, but what you're saying simply isn't true.

    Strength Tlm
    Strength blood mage
    New strength bloodmage
    OP Cyber hunter with static charge
    Merc support builds with crazy high support
    Tech mage caster builds

    And more! People copied these builds like crazy too!




    ok but look in delta yes there was copying but it wasnt crazy as it is in omega right now because if theres a OP class everyone switches to it like ASAP but in delta it was kinda impossible to copy a build because they would have to have the items etc, well you know what i mean CHOSEN ONE and yes theere was OP classes but it got fixed in the end just what emperor just said.



    Mother1 -> RE: Bring Back Delta!! (12/24/2013 11:46:41)

    That would mean non variums would be the punching bags of varium players once again, Juggernaut would become extremely easy again for the jugs and the opponents would be punching bags again, and all the core introduced to the game would go bye bye.

    As much as I liked delta and would love for it to come back I can't support this, and the staff won't just bring back an old phase of epic duel after all the hard work they put into omega, as well as just because a few players don't like it.




    Scyze -> RE: Bring Back Delta!! (12/24/2013 11:49:33)

    Now if you want to go back to Delta, people would complain about the build I'd be using. Don't bother asking for Delta when the reason why it was fun was because of Enhancements; NPCs counting towards your battle records were just something to sweeten it up. Delta was a great phase, and the only phase where I bought Varium. To your point, it was fair because you had Varium, but if you get rid of it, your chance to be successful is low.
    I know that there were good players who didn't have Varium gear and they would sometimes beat someone with Varium gear + Enhancements.

    If EpicDuel does become Delta again, then don't expect to see new content. When EpicDuel was in Delta, the game was close to the limit of things you could have because of the data - Enhancements being one of the reasons. There were a variety of builds which had a lot of Enhancements, each had different win ratios and it was ridiculous. This was all revealed in the livestream Charfade hosted last Thursday and, again, I did think that there was a limit to how much stuff you could put in-game.
    Plus the game has changed so much, if it was changed back into Delta, what was the 16+ hour days worth?

    My TLM build was considered OP because it was really hard to beat. Why it never got nerfed is something I keep to myself and many others will know why. But the thing is, we only liked the previous phases because we had the Varium advantage. Nothing more, nothing less. Now don't say that Delta was fair - it wasn't. When you had win ratios over 90% by people not even defeating NPCs 15 times per hour, there's a problem. You could even copy builds because some builds had similar stats and you could use Enhancements to match someone's build. Build copying wasn't always exact - same with Omega and I don't think that Omega has more build copiers than Delta did.

    Why do you want Enhancements to come back? Is it because of the advantage it gave other players who didn't have them?



    Emperor_Blitz -> RE: Bring Back Delta!! (12/24/2013 11:51:22)

    I'm thinking of doing a survey later on when I get it completed asking multiple people in game which phase the prefer. The other phases took work too people enjoyed them a lot more then omega from what im hearing from people in game. Juggernaut is basically broken now. When I try to juggernaut or any other people I see on leader board have less than a 50% which is awful. You barley stand a chance first of all. When you buy a weapon now the weapon is basically the same besides the look and the core your basically buying the same weapon over and over if you think about it.



    J Sub -> RE: Bring Back Delta!! (12/24/2013 11:53:37)

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    That would mean non variums would be the punching bags of varium players once again, Juggernaut would become extremely easy again for the jugs and the opponents would be punching bags again, and all the core introduced to the game would go bye bye.


    Ok Mother1 i dont get you are you trying to support urself or the non variums? tell me this was there more players in delta or omega? exactly no varium player plays this game anymore. and plus when ever i fight you. you always lose right? and i ask you why do u use a original build you said its fun right? but in delta if u used ur build with enchancements wouldnt you be winning? im sorry to say this but i personally think you dont even care about the game as much as we do the only thing you care about is its not FAIR FOR NON VARIUMs! well.. thats pretty messed up cuz i can see how much you payed and stop lieing to urself i can see every post u make up a STORY That is BS. im seriously tired of this ITS NOT FAIR FOR NON VARIUMS??? wel its not fair for who payed.. STOP LIEING TO URSELF MOTHER1 And Tell The DEVS what you feel like.



    J Sub -> RE: Bring Back Delta!! (12/24/2013 11:56:20)

    Scyze Tell Me This Was There More Players In DELTA OR OMEGA??? I think that should answer ur question.



    Emperor_Blitz -> RE: Bring Back Delta!! (12/24/2013 11:56:52)

    I didn't deny that Delta was unfair. Yes there were some non varium users in Delta who could beat varium users, look at omega right now most of the people are strength bounty hunters with basically the same build. Somebody made a tech mage build i'm already starting to see people copying it. was your tact merc build copied, im guessing not and im pretty sure it wasnt. Omega once a build has like above a 75% people start copying no variety at all this game is probably going to be dead soon.



    Emperor_Blitz -> RE: Bring Back Delta!! (12/24/2013 12:00:14)

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    ] Ok Mother1 i dont get you are you trying to support urself or the non variums? tell me this was there more players in delta or omega? exactly no varium player plays this game anymore. and plus when ever i fight you. you always lose right? and i ask you why do u use a original build you said its fun right? but in delta if u used ur build with enchancements wouldnt you be winning? im sorry to say this but i personally think you dont even care about the game as much as we do the only thing you care about is its not FAIR FOR NON VARIUMs! well.. thats pretty messed up cuz i can see how much you payed and stop lieing to urself i can see every post u make up a STORY That is BS. im seriously tired of this ITS NOT FAIR FOR NON VARIUMS??? wel its not fair for who payed.. STOP LIEING TO URSELF MOTHER1 And Tell The DEVS what you feel like.


    Agreed it's also not fair to varium users enhancments are gone they payed and now most of them are gone = waste of money



    J Sub -> RE: Bring Back Delta!! (12/24/2013 12:05:53)

    SOONER OR LATER THIS GAME WILL BE DEAD AND YES IT WILL BE DEAD BECAUSE OF US SUPPORTING NON VARIUMS THERE"S MORE VARIUM PLAYERS THEN NON VARIUM AS YOU GUYS CAN SEEE THERES LIKE 30% of NON VARIUM AND 70% OF VARIUM PLAYERS AS U GUYS CAN SEE THE BIG DIFFERENCE IN OMEGA AND DELTA DONT TAKE ME WRONG I DONT WANT THIS GAME TO BE DEAD THIS GAME IS MY FAVOURITE AND I CANT SEE IT BEING DEAD SO PLEASE DEVS BRING IT BACK [:@]



    Scyze -> RE: Bring Back Delta!! (12/24/2013 12:13:35)

    So you don't like equality between everyone? Why is it that most of the players who had Varium, want older phases to return? There's no point to starting a survey or a revolution, that's not going to change the game phase. If you don't like Omega, then suggest ways to make it better. If you want Weapons to be different, suggest individual stats points - this will make EpicDuel have more data = less content unless things change. Players were complaining because there was lack in content, and Omega being fulled with player suggestions, we don't like it? The Developers listened to your voices and they did what you wanted to be done.

    They're still listening to us and some players say they're not listening because the suggestion was pathetic. If you want everything to return, perhaps you don't want Delta, you want the Varium advantage + Enhancements and NPC win counts.

    @J Sub,
    So you're basing the game on the amount of players? Haven't you been here on the Forums, I've stated many times that those players probably moved on to a new game. Are you basically talking about the amount of players who were online at one time or the amount of players the game had? If you're talking about the amount of players being online at the same time, then why don't we go back to Beta instead? Because I'm seeing a lot of pictures from Beta where the servers were full.

    Please come back and argue with valid information. I still play the game, others still play who have spent over $2000 on EpicDuel. When I see people like you, I see how much you care about EpicDuel and I am like you. Yes you care about this game, but so does Mother1. You are only being rude because he/she is standing up for players who didn't have Varium.

    @Emperor_Blitz,
    quote:

    most of the people are strength bounty hunters with basically the same build.
    And Delta didn't? Wouldn't you see Strength Bounty Hunters running around the place having hundreds of wins a day? Weren't builds like this common? https://twitter.com/Scyze24/status/395879116022378496/photo/1

    It doesn't matter if you continuously beat someone, if you want the game to go back, I'd be happy to use a build like this: https://twitter.com/Scyze24/status/395883225274253312/photo/1
    That build wasn't my final version, the final version was better with a higher win ratio. It didn't matter if you had Varium or not, you still lost to me unless you had a similar build or you got lucky. As soon as people see that I have that build, people will copy it. Sooner or later, it will get nerfed and I'll find a new build.



    Chosen 0ne -> RE: Bring Back Delta!! (12/24/2013 12:14:39)

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    but in delta if u used ur build with enchancements wouldnt you be winning?


    No. If she had an original build enhancements did not garantee a win. Back in Delta people complained about others switching to the OP class even more than we do now.

    quote:

    I'm thinking of doing a survey later on when I get it completed asking multiple people in game which phase the prefer.


    It really doesn't matter.


    I can agree that the end of Delta was a little balanced though. You can probably find a quote of me saying that somewhere back in 2012. However I do NOT want it back.

    Back in delta it would cost 2000 varium for one weapon due to enhancements. One promo after the other would be better than the other, making us buy the new one to keep up.

    As of now I only see this game moving forward. I do not want delta to come back at all. It would be an obnoxious thing if it did.



    Scakk -> RE: Bring Back Delta!! (12/24/2013 12:16:45)

    Complaint and/or demanding threads are not conducive to the purpose of this forum at all. The game will not be reverted back to Delta to suit some people's want/wishes.

    Now if you have suggestions to help the current incarnation of the game then please feel free to make those suggestions.

    Thread locked.



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