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Exploding Penguin -> Energy Feeding (2/5/2014 0:11:53)

I seriously want to know the point of static charge and energy parasite. They regain energy too slowly to be used and thus end up actually feeding and benefiting the opponent more if they're a merc, BH, or TM since these 2 skills create more energy than what's currently existing on the field. Static charge may be unblockable, but the penalties from feeding the opponent energy is questionable. Both skills' cooldowns are also set so that they can easily be exploited by shorter or same-cooldown drains that the above 3 mentioned classes have.

So what do you think should happen with these 2 skills because often using them doesn't even help the caster, and really benefits the opponent more, particularly in 2v2.




DarkDevil -> RE: Energy Feeding (2/5/2014 3:46:21)

no , they don't.

anyway , cybers static charge do need an improvement in the regain that is not in magnitude because it doesn't regain enough energy for anything unless mixed with genrator or smth.

on the point that is here , both skills deal damage , so while a merc/bh will waste a turn to drain your energy you are hiting non-stop , yet you need 5 turns to use anything.

on parasite , the skill needs a damage buff , maybe to 85% so it will be effective to use.




Rui. -> RE: Energy Feeding (2/5/2014 4:26:04)

Static charge is just beautiful at the moment. It is unblock able gives u rage and perfect if you need energy to massacre. Right now cybers are soo awesome..

Tell me whats ur counter for this build.. malf abyss static max massacare rage gun ? if have countered 2 players with this build and no matter that u do they will kill you with their 1800 hp and 900 energy !




DarkDevil -> RE: Energy Feeding (2/5/2014 5:08:20)

you are puting items that are very questionable of their balance.
if the cores were excluded it can easily be countered by anyone with an energy drain , even bloodmages.

yet i agree static charge should be blockable and can inflict critical yet both should not affect energy regain.
because its abused by low dex/supp builds.




Exploding Penguin -> RE: Energy Feeding (2/5/2014 19:58:24)

I find it hard to believe that they don't feed the opponent when I'm a BM and constantly feed assim and static smash (static grenade has questionable EP recovery so people mostly use it against me to remove not recover). I also feed off of CHs with level 8 parasite, which is significantly weaker than other drain skills in terms of amount drained. So I find it hard to believe that energy parasite, which easily feeds off of static charge, seals the skill better than assim or static smash.




lionblades -> RE: Energy Feeding (2/5/2014 20:11:38)

There is no point in Energy Parasite...only good for fighting NPCs. Parasite meant for draining and gaining energy is useless and only gives more energy to TM. Here is an example:

Turn 1.TM uses Battery to gain 380 energy
Turn 2.BM uses max Parasite

TM still has 323 energy the second turn (380-380*.15) which is more than enough to use another skill (healing etc.) If you are by some lucky chance is able to obtain 200ish energy TM assimilates you and you are screwed. Outdamaged and outdrained

Static Charge is not as bad but still kind of mediocre compared to TM due to moderate energy gain & no steal. It just req. a little more strategy (like have generator boost you or using before rage so opponent drain next turn and you rage 1st)




Mother1 -> RE: Energy Feeding (2/5/2014 20:28:25)

With the current balance and overstress on energy of course Energy parasite is weak.

This move works best on high energy builds but because of all the stress and over importance of energy and stats everyone is putting just enough energy into their builds and not more. So to be honest it isn't even energy parasite that is actually weak because as a skill it is actually the most balanced out of all the energy drainers/gainers.

It is the stat in which energy is in that is the real problem.




Exploding Penguin -> RE: Energy Feeding (2/5/2014 21:27:46)

quote:

There is no point in Energy Parasite...only good for fighting NPCs. Parasite meant for draining and gaining energy is useless and only gives more energy to TM. Here is an example:


exactly. This is what I mean by using the term "energy feeding"




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