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white out727 -> Piston punch (2/14/2014 16:35:59)
so i hate piston punch for this simple reason. i was winning a 1v1 and this dex mage had no energy and 300 hp i had about 170 energy and 430 hp. he piston punched and stone 50 energy and got 250 for himself,enough to critt overload me for the win... WTF?! there is no reason that that should happen, it needs to be balanced in some way EDIT: fixed some typos Title edited to remove foul language. Please refrain from using this in the future. ~Therril oreb

Mother1 -> RE: Piston punch bullcrap (2/14/2014 16:42:22)
How is the core unbalanced? You can use it as a strong energy gainer but a weak drainer, a stronger drainer but a weaker gainer or both. It just sound like to me you are sore about someone using a balanced core to work their plan and beat you TBH.

Ranloth -> RE: Piston punch bullcrap (2/14/2014 16:54:23)
He can do the same with Generator though... They work in the same way, but instead of giving you HP back, it drains EP. You seem to have an issue before you lost, and these kind of complaints weren't permitted before and aren't now - constructive feedback. Nerf Piston Punch, you nerf Generator too. Oh, and if you want it nerfed because of ONE build, that's a biased suggestion which won't even be considered. There are other players using both of these cores, with different builds, at different level.

white out727 -> RE: Piston punch bullcrap (2/14/2014 16:54:39)
@mother1 yes i am upset about it but no I'm overreacting, no draining move the restores energy should restore more than it takes thats a simple principle; the way it works now is as if it is two different moves being used at once and that isn't ok. @trans lol i hate thoes post and it kills me to post one like it but really piston punch should not return more energy than it steals or it functions as two different moves at once, and if he had generator instead of piston then it would have been different because i could have had a move to counter. also his build had nothing to do with it, i was just explaining the situation

Ranloth -> RE: Piston punch bullcrap (2/14/2014 17:08:20)
But Generator = Piston Punch, when it comes to the EP return. One returns HP, other drains EP instead. If they shouldn't have two functions at once, remove HP return from Generator too. You can't have it all. Generator would've gave him more HP, but you'd have another move available (but not everyone will), whilst with Piston Punch, he had less HP but drained your EP. And you're missing out the point. You wanna nerf the core, and it affects everyone. And it seems to be causing an issue with one build. And it's biased because of it. And there's nothing overpowered about it because one builds has synergy with it.

white out727 -> RE: Piston punch bullcrap (2/14/2014 17:11:16)
wait piston pouch changes based on your armor???? i did not know that :o

Ranloth -> RE: Piston punch bullcrap (2/14/2014 17:25:01)
Yeah. If you have +12 Def and +0 Res, it will drain -290 EP and return +50 EP. Generator would return +290 HP and +50 EP. If you have +0 Def and +12 Res, Piston Punch would drain -50 EP and return +290 EP, whilst Generator would return +50 HP and +290 EP. They work in the same way, just replace "returns x HP" with "drains x EP", and add in +30 damage (fixed).

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