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dfo99 -> blood hawk nerf (4/8/2014 11:01:57)

this bot is very more effetive than almost all other bots. overpowered



santonik -> RE: blood hawk nerf (4/8/2014 11:34:13)

It is give (verygood debuff)

Sometimes double debuff. Depend class.

I think it was very strong. (sometimes this give easy wins)



I see few players using this this way. 1 turn using this armor annihilator (special) then coming ultimate bombard. over 100 extra damage per turn is huge advantage now.

Should the focus to develop a game based Highlights Using. (mainly the robot)

1 Focus could do 20% damage (max damage)
2 Focusi 40%
3 Focus 60%
4 Focus 80%
Focus 5 100%

Myself to wonder why (non focus) players have the same value as the special 5_focus.

Perhaps it would be good to pay attention to this.


I have that bot myself. It give big advantages 2vs2. Thank to special.



Mother1 -> RE: blood hawk nerf (4/8/2014 11:44:36)

Could you please explain how this that makes it overpowered?

Cause last I checked this bot removes armor defenses and cores for 3 turns, and the defense and resist it removes last i checked takes away what the opponent set up themselves which is no fault of the user.



Cyber Dream -> RE: blood hawk nerf (4/9/2014 16:13:04)

The only problem I see with this bot is that it grants an extra debuff. This is why I don't understand some of the balance/core being released latley. Smoke and tech mixed with bloodhawk dosen't seemed op to you?


Sorry, I meant debuff.



Ranloth -> RE: blood hawk nerf (4/9/2014 16:17:26)

Two classes don't have offensive debuffs. Which one will you target - debuffs, the Bot, or the combo?

Also: Heal is ALWAYS useful, since skills deal damage and Heal gives it back to me. Overpowered. >.>
Assault Bot is also very useful, because all classes have debuffs, but it's not overpowered. Item being very common in PvP =/= overpowered. Was said before already.

Balance needs a logical argument, if you think something is under or overpowered. Without explaining what the problem is, and suggesting a solution of your own, it's a complaint that serves no purpose. If you want us to agree with you, put some thought into your post since it's YOU raising an issue, and you don't even explain why it is, apart from a bad argument, which makes no sense.



Exploding Penguin -> RE: blood hawk nerf (4/9/2014 18:09:04)

Not supported. It isn't that OP IMO.



dfo99 -> RE: blood hawk nerf (4/10/2014 16:59:47)

trans

heal cost mana and is a skill to all players classes unlike the hawk bot that specific for a type of players, and the assault bot effect is very weaker compared to hawk bot in battle.




Ranloth -> RE: blood hawk nerf (4/10/2014 17:02:57)

Interesting choice of words, "weaker", huh? Perhaps they work differently and useful in different situations? They can't be weaker than each other, because their effects target different areas. One is a defensive Bot, other is an offensive Bot.

Still, you've provided no valid argument or whatsoever about why it should get a nerf, what the nerf should be + justify your suggestion, and provide some examples of your own - mostly the data you gather from battles. Otherwise, we'll settle for petty balance changes which solve nothing but create more mess - also called band-aid fixes.



dfo99 -> RE: blood hawk nerf (4/10/2014 17:44:17)

if you are in doubt between assault and hawk bot, assault bot is by far a bad option to choice (except for tank builds maybe)



Mother1 -> RE: blood hawk nerf (4/10/2014 17:58:32)

@ dfo99

Every bot isn't suppose to be good for all builds.

Also the only way this bot is a double debuff is if the opponent has armor points set in both areas. Otherwise it is a single debuff.



dfo99 -> RE: blood hawk nerf (4/10/2014 18:09:06)

mother1

but this is what this bot do, this and other bots is good with all builds, but it is overall more powerful than all others.



Ranloth -> RE: blood hawk nerf (4/10/2014 18:31:16)

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if you are in doubt between assault and hawk bot, assault bot is by far a bad option to choice (except for tank builds maybe)

Not relevant. My point was, you can't compare offensive Bots to defensive Bots, because they serve different purpose - this was to you saying Assault Bot is weaker, when the abilities are completely different. Popularity is irrelevant to balance too.

Regardless, you're still missing out a lot of info. It's a complaint otherwise, and Game Devs (any) ignore those, because it doesn't even help anyone.



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