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King Bling -> Legion and the Exile (5/21/2014 10:25:03)

I have joined this forum only to tell the people playing ED and the artix entertainment that the on going wars are rather dumb and pointless if you notice properly, the EXILE has got a lot of players more than that in LEGION. I arnt raising this point because I am in legion and want to win the war but just pointing that thing out.
Its pretty pointless from the legions side to even try to win this was as everone is sure that EXILE wins always from double the points of that of LEGION's.
Maybe you people can balance it a little. And even many legion players who did great have changed go EXILE as time passes along.
Thanks for reading much. [:)]



Variation -> RE: Legion and the Exile (5/21/2014 10:36:53)

The only way Legion will ever win a war is with a reinforcement system that makes up for their lack of activity. You're also very right there really isn't a reason for Legion players to try we don't have enough active players to come even close to winning.

This is why I feel that prizes should be free to both alignments after they've met the participation requirement, which at the time happens to be 150 influence.



Mother1 -> RE: Legion and the Exile (5/21/2014 12:01:45)

Ok 2 things

1 This isn't a problem with balance battle wise with skills.

2 People have to want to do something, and why would players willingly go over to a side they know is going to lose when they could go to a side they know will win? It is human nature sad but true, and to be honest with you Player wise Legion outnumbers exile, but due to changes majority of the active legion players quit so that is why this is like this.

@ Variation

There already is something like this in play as it was mentioned over one of the old livestreams. However this can only do but so much. Remember the players themselves have to actively play as well and if they just roll over and play dead due to thinking they can't win of course the other side is going to slaughter them. That is a fact we both know.



Variation -> RE: Legion and the Exile (5/21/2014 12:19:21)

If there is a reinforcement system already in place it must be severely bugged. If there was such a system Exile wouldn't have over an eight-million lead on Legion. The whole point of a reinforcement system is to make up for the lack of participation on the losing side. The problem is only going to get worse as regional wars progress because there seriously isn't any reason aside from influence for Legion players to play.

The first war is a prime example of this. Most Legion players knew what the outcome would be, but they still gave it a shot in case they were wrong. Well their theory was right and they still lost, which of course means they have no chance in future wars without an effective reinforcement system.

This is what happens when the losing side has to pay to claim a prize. The imbalance wouldn't be such a big deal if they based the free prize only on participation and not whether or not your alignment won.



Mother1 -> RE: Legion and the Exile (5/21/2014 12:45:52)

@ Variation

Well the first time around Exile was on defense while legion was on offense. Remember unlike before Exile didn't have offensive items that powered up their items like the legion did the first time around.

The defenders have 100% fixed range items while the attackers have some fixed range and some increasing and decreasing ranged items. Remember the exile shield war? There was a turrent that increased in damage as the shield took more damage, and there was a turrent that had high damage at first but lost it as it took Damage.



lionblades -> RE: Legion and the Exile (5/21/2014 15:45:00)

Its pretty obvious exile will win all the war regions unless the devs heavily modify the reinforcement system which I don't think is a good idea (makes war pointless). Better if devs allow legion to get a prize if they contribute x influence to the war, or give a scaled discount to the items the higher the influence the legions earn.



ambien -> RE: Legion and the Exile (5/21/2014 16:34:57)

the point is this ( there are 5 to 1 ) more active exile players at a given time on ed playing that is the point here. take away of buying varium bombs once an see how it goes once that will never happen. bombs they are dropping at a .03% of the time if that.

mother1 it does not matter who is on offense or defense, when you are out numb 5 to 1 in game playing players at any time. ( like said here the war is pointless ).

( no one ) likes the war any more.

my thoughts on the war

always the syfy



I Underlord I -> RE: Legion and the Exile (5/21/2014 17:51:32)

The concern with allowing Legion a prize in the same capacity is simply how nonsensical it is. What is the point of winning the war if the only benefit is the "fame?"

I am certainly in support of losing-alignment players being able to select a consolation prize upon achieving the set level of influence. This possible rewards should have an corresponding worth of approximately a quarter to approximately a third of the winning-side rewards.

The case of players switching alignment is not a good argument; consider the people who have been a part of a certain group for most if not all of their time on EpicDuel. What about those who knowingly or unknowingly switched to the losing side?

The flaw here is in the war, but it is an imperfect response to the greatest issue: stagnation of the game.

For those wondering, I am indeed part of Exile, but I have been ever since I joined since Beta 1.05. I would pose this exact argument were I of the Legion, which in fact is true of my alternate character.

In any case, the goal is to have fun! I hope those playing the game are doing as much. [:)]



King Bling -> RE: Legion and the Exile (5/22/2014 8:00:12)

I m not very sure that this was going on is even competitive. CONSIDER IF ALL THE PEOPLE JOIN ONE SIDE THEN IT IS OBVIOUS THAT, THAT SIDE WILL WIN100%. Same case here :)



Melissa4Bella -> RE: Legion and the Exile (5/22/2014 16:06:38)

This thread in no way discusses balance. There are only two threads stickied at the top of the page and one of them is the =ED= Balance Forum Rules. Please read them before posting in this forum. It will certainly help keep threads open and/or undeleted.

As such, this thread is Dusted.




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