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santonik -> SUPPORT ((what is this could include?) (8/23/2014 21:11:32)

1 Energy control

all the energy skill tree skills and all cores of the game would be one way or another dependent on the support stats.
My opinion.
This game has skill/cores slipped too much STR, DEX and TECH benefits, which would be under SUPPORT.
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2

All debuff and buff coming under support stats.
Would no longer be tech-based debuff. (boynty) OR no anymore DEX riring defence buff to TECHMAGE. 1 lvl defence buff can be murderous good now.
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3

Stun change. Evade stun rising abilty. like old era,s game.
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4


SUPPORT spesify who will start the match. (like this days)
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5


The critical impact levels could increase slightly. bigger% chance to make a critical attack.

I dare say this. In the old days of critical attacks were anti blocks / deflections against. And vice versa. Today, blocks / deflection prescriptive and better than critical.

Critical cores should change the balance due. Today will be the wrong direction for future critical strikes. Minimum_SUPPORT vs very high_SUPPORT.
one of a kind and there is a winner.
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6

Rage.

Current (rage) favors high damage. I think this is a crying shame.

Rage should be based purely SUPPORT. basically the more SUPPORT STATS, the more the rage.
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7
Simple roling.

These combine to allow the counter play.
STR --- attack---attack skills
DEX --- Tank --- attacking skills
TECH --- Tank --- attacking skills
SUPPORT --- an attack / defense benefits and energy control.
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8
What do you think? Did you miss something out? Or is there something wrong?



Mother1 -> RE: SUPPORT ((what is this could include?) (8/23/2014 21:37:40)

Support already does numbers 3,4,5, and somewhat 6.

For those they cut the explaination of what support does down to two lines so it would fit better on the page. However they forgot to mention it in the design notes so it lead people to thinking support got nerfed into the ground which resulted in many people changing and finding non support based builds due to this.

Here is the link to the thread where whitetiger explains this.

As for the other part of 6, the problem is even though rage gain does work with support the forumla itself also works with defenses and and offense as well. IIRC Rabble is working on a way to change this so rage doesn't favor attackers because as it is now it favors those strike builds we face now.

Now as for Number one on your list

Static Smash, Atom Smasher and Assimilation all work with primaries and primaries work off of strength not support. As for the other cores outside of skill core on the tree you couldn't be further from the truth. There are only cores that work with either strength, Support or nothing. There are no dex and tech powered cores. So it goes like this

Strength
Support
Nothing
Dex and Tech tied.

Lastly for number 2 I don't agree with it for this reason. Changing Technician and Smoke over to support would give Tech mage and Bounty hunter too many moves that work and/or need support.

Tech mage already has Defense matrix, Malfuction that work of it and fire scythe that requires it.

As for Bounty hunter they have Reflex boost, Energy shield, as well as Massacre and Shadow arts that require this so that is 1/3 of BH skill tree that needs support, and 1/4 of TM's tree that work with support.

Doing this change would make TM have 4 moves that work off/need Support on their three and 5 for BH which can cause other balance problems later on down the line.



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